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{{moss|Story titles always get a [[dab term]].}}
{{moss|Story titles always get a [[dab term]].}}
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'''Stories are automatically and universally [[T:DAB|disambiguated]] here.'''  So if you have a story which occurs on television, it's ''automatically'' a '''(TV story)'''. If you're starting a page on a Big Finish audio, it's an '''(audio story)'''.  If writing about a ''[[Doctor Who Adventures]]'' comic, it's a '''(comic story)'''.  [[T:DAB TERM|And so on.]]
'''Stories are universally [[T:DAB|disambiguated]] here.'''  So if you have a story which occurs on television, it's ''automatically'' a '''(TV story)'''. If you're starting a page on a Big Finish audio, it's an '''(audio story)'''.  If writing about a ''[[Doctor Who Adventures]]'' comic, it's a '''(comic story)'''.  [[T:DAB TERM|And so on.]]


Why do stories get the dab term and not the in-universe terms?  Simple!
Why do stories get the dab term and not the in-universe terms?  Simple!
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:'''Out-of-universe things get dab terms; in-universe things generally don't.'''
:'''Out-of-universe things get dab terms; in-universe things generally don't.'''


This means that if you have a choice between the '''city''' Castrovalva and the '''story''' Castrovalva, the city stays at [[Castrovalva]] and the story goes to [[Castrovalva (TV story)]].  This notion was one of the first things decided by our founding editors, and it has gained widespread acceptance by our community.
This means that if you have a choice between the '''city''' Castrovalva and the '''story''' Castrovalva, the city stays at [[Castrovalva]] and the story goes to [[Castrovalva (TV story)]].  This notion was one of the first things decided by our founding editors, and it has gained widespread acceptance by our community.  
== A literal problem ==
== A literal problem ==
If this were {{iw|starwars|Wookieepedia}} or the {{iw|dc|DC Comics Database}} this stance would be unproblematic.  We'd only have a few instances of ''literal titles'' — that is, titles that name something from the universe.   
If this were {{iw|starwars|Wookieepedia}} or the {{iw|dc|DC Comics Database}} this stance would be unproblematic.  We'd only have a few instances of ''literal titles'' — that is, titles that name something from the universe.   
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You begin to see the problem.  There are ''thousands'' of story titles.  How can the average editor possibly know which will require <code>(novel)</code>, <code>(comic story)</code> or <code>(audio story)</code>?  The answer is that they can't.
You begin to see the problem.  There are ''thousands'' of story titles.  How can the average editor possibly know which will require <code>(novel)</code>, <code>(comic story)</code> or <code>(audio story)</code>?  The answer is that they can't.
===A simple solution===
===A simple solution===
For years, this "change as you discover the title is literal" approach meant a steep learning curve for us.  New editors had to figure out on their own which stories ''required'' a dab term and which didn't.  As we discovered that the title was literal, story names would be moved — and something which had for years been [[Verdigris]], would suddenly be [[Verdigris (novel)]].  After a while, the sheer number of moves required became so, frankly, ''annoying'', [[Forum:Story names should be automatically disambiguated|it was decided]] that the system was becoming overly complicated. [[Forum:Story names (modified like this)|Users questioned]] why some titles had dab terms and others didn't.
For years, we had this approach:


To make matters worse, we began to sometimes discover that titles of classic [[serial]]s sometimes were repurposed by later stories as in universe items. The best example?  ''[[The Five Doctors]]'' is actually an in-universe video game!
:: '''Leave the page without a dab term ''until you discover the title is literal''.
 
In other words, it was a "Wikipedia-esque" approach of waiting to add a dab term until a conflict was discovered. But this approach meant a steep learning curve for us.  New editors had to figure out on their own which stories ''required'' a dab term and which didn't.  As we discovered that the title was literal, story names would be moved — and something which had for years been [[Verdigris]], would suddenly be [[Verdigris (novel)]].  After a while, the sheer number of moves required became so, frankly, ''annoying'', [[Forum:Story names should be automatically disambiguated|it was decided]] that the system was becoming overly complicated. [[Forum:Story names (modified like this)|Users questioned]] why some titles had dab terms and others didn't.
 
To make matters worse, we began to discover that titles of classic [[serial]]s sometimes were repurposed by later stories as in universe items. The best example?  ''[[The Five Doctors]]'' is actually an in-universe video game!


So, rather than asking editors to memorise a changing chart of which titles got dab terms and which didn't, we simply decided to '''require ''all'' story names to have a disambiguation term attached.'''
So, rather than asking editors to memorise a changing chart of which titles got dab terms and which didn't, we simply decided to '''require ''all'' story names to have a disambiguation term attached.'''
The exception to this is [[Tardis:Valid sources|invalid stories]]: it was decided that to highlight their special, "second-class citizen" status, stories which are covered as invalid sources do not get automatically dabbed. They only get a dab term only if there is a risk of confusing them with something else (whether it be another story or something in-universe).
For example, [[Dr. Who and the Daleks (theatrical film)|''Dr. Who and the Daleks'' (theatrical film)]] starring [[Peter Cushing]] shares a title with [[Doctor Who and the Daleks|many, many other things]], so it does get disambiguated. But [[Search Out Space]] is hard to get confused with anything else; we don't need to specify that it's a "(TV story)".
== What are the dab terms that apply to stories? ==
== What are the dab terms that apply to stories? ==
A more complete list [[T:DAB TERM|exists elsewhere]], but the most ubiquitous terms are these:
A more complete list of dab terms (including things like documentaries) [[T:DAB TERM|exists elsewhere]], but the terms used for ''stories'' are these:


* (audio story)
* (audio story)
* (comic story)
* (comic story)
* (game)
* (novel)
* (novel)
* (short story)
* (short story)
* (theatrical film)
* (TV story)
* (TV story)
* (video game)
* (webcast)
* (video game)
You'll note that this is more elaborate than our [[Tardis:Prefixes|citation prefixes]]: for example, [[PROSE]] covers both "(short story)" and "(novel)".
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