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:Wrong, it was the Teselecta the whole time. After the Doctor asked the captain of the Teselecta to deliver the envelopes, the captain asked if there was anything else they could do for him. It was at that moment he came up with the solution to hide in the Teselecta, and did so. The trip to Lake Silencio occurred after that. - [[User:DarkXaven|DarkXaven]] [[User talk:DarkXaven|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:29, December 27, 2013 (UTC) | :Wrong, it was the Teselecta the whole time. After the Doctor asked the captain of the Teselecta to deliver the envelopes, the captain asked if there was anything else they could do for him. It was at that moment he came up with the solution to hide in the Teselecta, and did so. The trip to Lake Silencio occurred after that. - [[User:DarkXaven|DarkXaven]] [[User talk:DarkXaven|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:29, December 27, 2013 (UTC) | ||
:::I agree that is was always the Teselecta that got shot at Lake Silencio. As DarkXaven said the trip to the lake always happened after the Doctor had the idea to use the Teselecta to help fake his death. The reason reality breaks when River would not shoot was because the universe needed to think the Doctor was dead. The fixed point in time was the Teselecta faking the Doctor's death not his actual death. When River would not shot time broke. It was only when she did shoot the Teselecta that time was fixed. What we saw in [[The Impossible Astronaut (TV story)]] was reality after the break was fixed. Time always broke but it was always fixed. Also if the Doctor ever died on Lake Silencio her would never have been in the town of Christmas so the Papal Mainframe would not have needed to change their religion to silence so there would never have been the off shoot of the church around to create River or even cause the cracks in time in the first place. Maybe the Doctor was originally ment to die on Trenzalore but he was never meant to die at the Lake. -- [[User:Fox Landale|Fox Landale]] [[User talk:Fox Landale|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:56, February 11, 2014 (UTC) | |||
:: It should also be noted that there is no evidence yet to suggest that River was aware of the War Doctor, given that Clara in her many forms navigated the Doctor's time stream yet remained unaware of him. So as far as she was concerned he still had one more. There has also been no set "format" for what happens to a Time Lord when he finally dies. [[Special:Contributions/70.76.69.162|70.76.69.162]]<sup>[[User talk:70.76.69.162#top|talk to me]]</sup> 15:13, December 28, 2013 (UTC) | :: It should also be noted that there is no evidence yet to suggest that River was aware of the War Doctor, given that Clara in her many forms navigated the Doctor's time stream yet remained unaware of him. So as far as she was concerned he still had one more. There has also been no set "format" for what happens to a Time Lord when he finally dies. [[Special:Contributions/70.76.69.162|70.76.69.162]]<sup>[[User talk:70.76.69.162#top|talk to me]]</sup> 15:13, December 28, 2013 (UTC) |
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