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When I encountered it, the lead asserted this was a "[[Doctor-lite]]" episode. It's not, though. A Doctor/companion lite episode is one that arises from the ''production'' need to [[double banking|double bank]] two episodes at the same time. Thus, one or more of the primary artists are not available for one of the two episodes. Given the split season, and the almost leisurely pace of filming this year that allowed them to be completing shots as late as July/August, there was nothing double banked in series 6, and therefore no '''need''' for a "Doctor lite" episode. | When I encountered it, the lead asserted this was a "[[Doctor-lite]]" episode. It's not, though. A Doctor/companion lite episode is one that arises from the ''production'' need to [[double banking|double bank]] two episodes at the same time. Thus, one or more of the primary artists are not available for one of the two episodes. Given the split season, and the almost leisurely pace of filming this year that allowed them to be completing shots as late as July/August, there was nothing double banked in series 6, and therefore no '''need''' for a "Doctor lite" episode. | ||
Narratively, this is in no sense a Doctor lite episode, as the Doctor is present in virtually every scene. Granted, he's often there by remote control, but he's still there, with lines, the entire time. It is an unusual visual structure to have the three regulars often essentially alone in shots, but communicating with the others who are offscreen. But that doesn't make this "Doctor lite" any more than ''[[Father's Day]]'' is for concentrating on Rose and Pete, and having a few minutes where the Doctor has been removed from the scene by Reapers. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''13:40:19 Sun '''11 Sep 2011 </span> | Narratively, this is in no sense a Doctor lite episode, as the Doctor is present in virtually every scene. Granted, he's often there by remote control, but he's still there, with lines, the entire time. It is an unusual visual structure to have the three regulars often essentially alone in shots, but communicating with the others who are offscreen. But that doesn't make this "Doctor lite" any more than ''[[Father's Day (TV story)|Father's Day]]'' is for concentrating on Rose and Pete, and having a few minutes where the Doctor has been removed from the scene by Reapers. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''13:40:19 Sun '''11 Sep 2011 </span> | ||
This is another example of "definition extension" that stretches the meaning of a term until it becomes useless. There has been argument over the definition of "Companion" for decades. The meaning of "Alias" on the "The Doctor's aliases" pages and the "also known as" boxes make those a mess. Perhaps this should be discussed in one of the community sections, but this looks a good place to point it out. As someone who favors precise writing, if only as a kindness to the reader, I feel more care should be taken.[[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 13:46, September 11, 2011 (UTC) | This is another example of "definition extension" that stretches the meaning of a term until it becomes useless. There has been argument over the definition of "Companion" for decades. The meaning of "Alias" on the "The Doctor's aliases" pages and the "also known as" boxes make those a mess. Perhaps this should be discussed in one of the community sections, but this looks a good place to point it out. As someone who favors precise writing, if only as a kindness to the reader, I feel more care should be taken.[[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 13:46, September 11, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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==Father's Day discussion== | ==Father's Day discussion== | ||
I removed one item from the Continuity section: | I removed one item from the Continuity section: | ||
: ''The TARDIS' ability to sustain the paradox of a person in two different points of their timestream was previously shown in [[Father's Day]] as the TARDIS was unable to maintain the paradox of Rose Tyler touching her infant self.'' | : ''The TARDIS' ability to sustain the paradox of a person in two different points of their timestream was previously shown in [[Father's Day (TV story)|Father's Day]] as the TARDIS was unable to maintain the paradox of Rose Tyler touching her infant self.'' | ||
This does not happen in the episode. Rose touches her infant self with no effect. The TARDIS "malfunction" in that episode was due to the paradox created by Rose saving her father's life and changing the timeline. It had nothing to do with her contacting her infant self. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.80.110|68.146.80.110]] 14:48, September 11, 2011 (UTC) | This does not happen in the episode. Rose touches her infant self with no effect. The TARDIS "malfunction" in that episode was due to the paradox created by Rose saving her father's life and changing the timeline. It had nothing to do with her contacting her infant self. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.80.110|68.146.80.110]] 14:48, September 11, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:: I agree with the removing of that item, but as a note Rose Tyler never did actually touch her self in that episode. See [[Blinovitch Limitation Effect]]. You're correct that the paradox was the saving of her father's life. [[User:Spreee|Spreee]] [[User talk:Spreee|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:24, October 18, 2012 (UTC)Spreee | :: I agree with the removing of that item, but as a note Rose Tyler never did actually touch her self in that episode. See [[Blinovitch Limitation Effect]]. You're correct that the paradox was the saving of her father's life. [[User:Spreee|Spreee]] [[User talk:Spreee|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:24, October 18, 2012 (UTC)Spreee | ||
