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:Indeed. It's not so much that the Silents of the Papal Mainframe are different, it's that they're unrecognizable different. All they do is blunder round the place trying to extract confessions. They seem to have no awareness that there is any other way they could live their lives. Now since they're revealed to be genetically engineered beings, they simply wouldn't be given any attributes that were extraneous to their purpose. All that is fine but there seems to be no path by which they could become the Silents from Series 6. Which suggests that they were engineered differently for a different purpose. Which means they can't speak to the questions that, that particular brand of Silents raise. The questions of the true purpose of those Silents and why the behaved as they did remain unanswered. As do may other questions this episode was supposed to answer.[[User:DCT|DCT]] [[User talk:DCT|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:30, February 4, 2014 (UTC) | :Indeed. It's not so much that the Silents of the Papal Mainframe are different, it's that they're unrecognizable different. All they do is blunder round the place trying to extract confessions. They seem to have no awareness that there is any other way they could live their lives. Now since they're revealed to be genetically engineered beings, they simply wouldn't be given any attributes that were extraneous to their purpose. All that is fine but there seems to be no path by which they could become the Silents from Series 6. Which suggests that they were engineered differently for a different purpose. Which means they can't speak to the questions that, that particular brand of Silents raise. The questions of the true purpose of those Silents and why the behaved as they did remain unanswered. As do may other questions this episode was supposed to answer.[[User:DCT|DCT]] [[User talk:DCT|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:30, February 4, 2014 (UTC) | ||
I seem to recall them chasing Clara around shouting "Confess!" When the Doctor said they were just confessional priests, I thought he had to be joking. As mentioned above, rather than being perfect for the role, they are quite incompatible. First because if you can't remember them, you wouldn't be able to intentionally approach one to confess. Secondly, the purpose of confessing includes appreciation of forgiveness, which is incompatible with forgetting you confessed. It includes recognizing why what one did was wrong, so one does not repeat it, which is also incompatible with forgetting. It is not intended as a way to prevent one having the ability to repeat, as the hypnotic suggestion power would imply. Now it is possible that with other changes, over time, the view of the Church becomes less associated with forgiveness and more with manipulation. There have certainly been sects who sought to impose their interpretation of right & wrong through limiting freedom to act. But even if in a thousand years the priests are like that, it still makes no sense for The Doctor to tell Clara they are just perfect confessional priests, because the only way she has of understanding that is in terms of contemporary confessional priests. It would make more sense to give her an answer like he gave Amy about the Bishop & his platoon, that the church has changed to address new situations and these priests reflect that change. But then he would still need to explain their behavior towards her, and how that reflects the changes. | |||
Since everyone at the Mainframe was supposed to be naked, it is possible that eyedrives were simply concealed by the holograms. But that would not do for The Doctor & Clara. Possibly at some point the Doctor was able to upgrade the Tardis psychic translation circuits to function like the eyedrive. But of course, he never mentions that. But since the Doctor seems to be well acquainted with the leader of the mainframe, it would not be surprising if any means they had for skipping the eyedrive would at some point have come into his possession.[[User:Phil Stone|Phil Stone]] [[User talk:Phil Stone|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:32, March 18, 2014 (UTC) | |||
