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*How can only the Ninth Doctor come from a place on Gallifrey that has the equivalent of a northern English accent? | |||
:: The Doctor's accent can change from from one incarnation to another, as has been shown (6th to 7th, for example), just as his face, other mannerisms, etc | * How can only the Ninth Doctor come from a place on Gallifrey that has the equivalent of a northern English accent? | ||
:: The Doctor's accent can change from from one incarnation to another, as has been shown (6th to 7th, for example), just as his face, other mannerisms, etc. also change. | |||
:::I know this, and I'm asking for an explanation for it! | :::I know this, and I'm asking for an explanation for it! | ||
::::That's like asking why only the 4th doctor liked jelly babies, had a scarf, why only the 5th doctor carried celery, only the 1st and 12th | |||
::::That's like asking why only the 4th doctor liked jelly babies, had a scarf, why only the 5th doctor carried celery, or only the 1st and 12th doctors had mostly grey hair. Its just how they are. | |||
* When Rose is attacked by the plastic arm, the Doctor uses his sonic screwdriver to cancel the signal. While he is doing this, Jackie is drying her hair in the other room. In ''[[Forest of the Dead]]'' the Doctor says that hair dryers interfere with his sonic screwdriver, so shouldn't he be unable to use it against the arm? | * When Rose is attacked by the plastic arm, the Doctor uses his sonic screwdriver to cancel the signal. While he is doing this, Jackie is drying her hair in the other room. In ''[[Forest of the Dead]]'' the Doctor says that hair dryers interfere with his sonic screwdriver, so shouldn't he be unable to use it against the arm? | ||
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::How about Rose being the one taking the pictures? | ::How about Rose being the one taking the pictures? | ||
::As seen in The Eleventh Hour, the Doctor doesn't really know what he looks like till he sees a photograph, or in that case a visual of himself. Not only that, The | ::As seen in ''[[The Eleventh Hour (TV story)|The Eleventh Hour]]'', the Doctor doesn't really know what he looks like till he sees a photograph, or in that case a visual of himself. Not only that, in ''[[The Vampires of Venice (TV story)|The Vampires of Venice]]'', the Eleventh takes a moment to look at himself in a mirror, acting like it's been a long time since he has seen what he looks like. Plus, I don't recall there being mirrors in the TARDIS control room, where he spends most of his time. | ||
::There are acknowledged gaps between on screen episodes. In ''[[Boom Town (TV story)|Boom Town]]'', Rose tells Mickey about places she has visited with the Doctor that are not shown on screen in previous episodes. So Rose could be travelling with the Doctor in all the instances found by Clive, but there is no guarantee that she was standing right next to or near the Doctor when the pictures were taken. | |||
::: The Doctor implies the Titanic photograph was most likely before he ever met Rose when he mentions "clinging to an iceberg" to Jabe in ''[[The End of the World (TV story)|The End of the World]]''. There had been no opportunity up to this stage for Rose to join him on missions not in the series. | |||
:: | :::: Clive says that the picture is of the Doctor with a family who "cancelled the trip and survived". The Doctor was therefore not on the Titanic that time. It could have been a previous incarnation of the doctor who was on the Titanic the first time and ended up "clinging to an iceberg". | ||
::: | ::::: This logic is flawed. Being in a picture with a family who cancelled their trip doesn't mean the Doctor didn't board the Titanic himself. Especially when you consider that the Doctor would be quite capable of piloting the TARDIS onto the Titanic even after it had left port. | ||
::Perhaps Rose remembered the photos she had seen, and so when she and the Doctor travelled to those points in time she made sure not to get her picture taken so as not to cause a paradox. (Since she had already seen the photos of only the Doctor.) | ::Perhaps Rose remembered the photos she had seen, and so when she and the Doctor travelled to those points in time she made sure not to get her picture taken so as not to cause a paradox. (Since she had already seen the photos of only the Doctor.) | ||
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::Most significantly: when Rose became "The Bad Wolf" at the end of the series, she made changes (leaving Bad Wolf clues) to ensure she would fulfil the mission of saving the Doctor. So, even if she had originally been in any of Clive's pictures, she would have altered them accordingly. | ::Most significantly: when Rose became "The Bad Wolf" at the end of the series, she made changes (leaving Bad Wolf clues) to ensure she would fulfil the mission of saving the Doctor. So, even if she had originally been in any of Clive's pictures, she would have altered them accordingly. | ||
::We find out in [[Good Night (TV story)]] that the Doctor doesn't need as much sleep (although we don't know if that's age or species difference) and apparently he can get a LOT done while others are sleeping. | ::We find out in [[Good Night (TV story)|Good Night]] that the Doctor doesn't need as much sleep (although we don't know if that's age or species difference) and apparently he can get a LOT done while others are sleeping. | ||
:: At the very beginning of the 4th Doctor's era, he had a trip in the TARDIS and an unseen misadventure during ''[[Robot (TV story)|Robot]]'', which brought about the events seen in ''[[The Face of Evil (TV story)|The Face of Evil]]''. This is according to the novelisation of the latter story. However, it's not mentioned in either of the television versions. | |||
*When the Auton's arm attacks Rose, we see Jackie in her bedroom using the hair dryer, when her hair is clearly already dry. | |||
*When the Auton's arm attacks Rose, we see Jackie in her bedroom using the | |||
::Many people use hair dryers to style their hair after it is dry. | ::Many people use hair dryers to style their hair after it is dry. | ||
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::Rose was preoccupied thinking about the Doctor. Having almost been killed and then meeting a mysterious man, it is likely that she would not be thinking properly. | ::Rose was preoccupied thinking about the Doctor. Having almost been killed and then meeting a mysterious man, it is likely that she would not be thinking properly. | ||
::The obviously plastic look was a production effect for our benefit. [[Spearhead from Space (TV story)|Spearhead from Space]] created the impression that | ::The obviously plastic look was a production effect for our benefit. ''[[Spearhead from Space (TV story)|Spearhead from Space]]'' created the impression that Auton copies are extremely difficult to distinguish from normal humans. | ||
*The Doctor calls humans "stupid apes" but wouldn't the [[Gallifreyan]]s, being [[humanoid]] and almost physically identical to humans, had evolved from an ape-like race? | *The Doctor calls humans "stupid apes" but wouldn't the [[Gallifreyan]]s, being [[humanoid]] and almost physically identical to humans, had evolved from an ape-like race? | ||
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:::Plus, Time Lords are much more evolved than humans, so from the Doctor's perspective, humans could be considered the Time Lords' evolutionary equivalent of apes. | :::Plus, Time Lords are much more evolved than humans, so from the Doctor's perspective, humans could be considered the Time Lords' evolutionary equivalent of apes. | ||
:: Time Lords didn't evolve from apes. They evolved from humanoid cats that evolved from humanoid fish. | :: Time Lords didn't evolve from apes. They evolved from humanoid cats that evolved from humanoid fish. | ||
[[Category:DW TV discontinuity]] | [[Category:DW TV discontinuity]] | ||
