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:::: Obviously a number of years has passed because her sister is shown to be a middle-aged woman when she meets Kazran for the first time. | :::: Obviously a number of years has passed because her sister is shown to be a middle-aged woman when she meets Kazran for the first time. | ||
:: Abigail's family does age. The confusion is due to the child actor playing two roles. Look at the credits, Bailey Pepper is credited as playing both "Boy" and "Benjamin." Meanwhile, Steve North is credited as "Old Benjamin." When Abigail's family goes to plead for Abigail's release, it is her sister Isabella, Isabella's son Benjamin, and Ben's two children, one of whom is the boy who throws coal at Kazran. Just as Michael Gambon plays father and son, Bailey Pepper is cast as two generations of the Pettigrew family. | |||
::: Add to this, there's an actress credited as playing Isabella, and another playing "Old Isabella". For the older family in the 'present' we see: Abigail's sister, grown up nephew, unnamed grand-nephew (but same actor as young Benjamin) and (presumably) a grand-niece. For the younger family in the 'past' we saw only: Isabella, Eric (presumably her husband) and Abigail's nephew (young Benjamin); notice there was no niece. The families are quite different. | |||
* How can the Doctor so casually alter time? | * How can the Doctor so casually alter time? | ||
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:: The POV the story follows is for the most part that of Kazran. He is aware his history is being manipulated, and for the story to work, is comparing the changes. Also, the only physical change shown was to the paining. We don't see the stash of photos or the damaged sonic screwdriver "appear" in the present nor do we see them prior to Kazran unearthing them. | :: The POV the story follows is for the most part that of Kazran. He is aware his history is being manipulated, and for the story to work, is comparing the changes. Also, the only physical change shown was to the paining. We don't see the stash of photos or the damaged sonic screwdriver "appear" in the present nor do we see them prior to Kazran unearthing them. | ||
:: Time is not linear. Kazran only started to acquire his new memories from the point in time where the Doctor decided to go back in time help young Kazran. (Otherwise old Kazran wouldn't be able to have 2 sets of memories.) Note also that the integrity of the timeline is easily maintained because Kazran became bitter again (albeit for different reasons) when he learnt Abigail had only 1 day left to live. It was only 'present-day' Kazran that overcame his bitterness when he almost hit his younger self. | |||
::Another possibility is that the Doctor's interference created an alternate universe. We have our main POV: Kazran a bitter old man learning to overcome his bitterness. And, presumably (as in the Charles Dickens version), the changed Kazran would spend the rest of his days doing good in the community, to the bewilderment of others. And we have an alternate universe where Kazran who did not grow up bitter. He would have been a respected and well-like man. This Kazran would have managed the clouds differently, and probably not even endangered the cruiser in the first place. NOTE: The alternate version didn't start with the Kazran we saw growing up, because that version of him became bitter again. This one would have started with the young Kazran who saw his older self near the end of the story. ''This explanation also conforms to some of the theories surrounding the lack of "Blinovitch Limitation Effect" below.'' | |||
* Abigail never spent a whole day outside the chamber at a time. So technically she still had time left. | * Abigail never spent a whole day outside the chamber at a time. So technically she still had time left. | ||
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:::: This isn't actually correct, as Rose touching her infant self ''does'' create a paradox. (''NOTE: Rose never actually touches her infant self in'' [[Father's Day (TV story)|Father's Day]].) I propose a different explanation: the TARDIS can alter or stabilise paradoxes that are expected (presumably, the Doctor has taken active precautions for this). The main support for this theory is that the Doctor is actively messing around with Kazran's timeline, but there are no side effects of this (the changing of Kazran is intentional, thus not a side effect). The interior of the TARDIS is not present for most of the episode in [[TV]]: ''[[Father's Day (TV story)|Father's Day]]'' after an unexpected timeline change when Rose prevents her father's death. In [[TV]]: ''The Big Bang'' the two versions of Amy have a different personal history with the lack of stars. (It's implied that Young Amy can still see them and is questioned by psychiatrists about them, which doesn't occur in the original timeline; also, it's not known whether her original meeting with the Doctor occurs in this timeline.) This is why she can touch her younger self (because they are people with the same genetic makeup, but different personal histories). This also explains why the Blinovitch Limitation Effect does occur with the Sonic Screwdriver, as it's an inanimate object, it does not have an alternate timeline. | :::: This isn't actually correct, as Rose touching her infant self ''does'' create a paradox. (''NOTE: Rose never actually touches her infant self in'' [[Father's Day (TV story)|Father's Day]].) I propose a different explanation: the TARDIS can alter or stabilise paradoxes that are expected (presumably, the Doctor has taken active precautions for this). The main support for this theory is that the Doctor is actively messing around with Kazran's timeline, but there are no side effects of this (the changing of Kazran is intentional, thus not a side effect). The interior of the TARDIS is not present for most of the episode in [[TV]]: ''[[Father's Day (TV story)|Father's Day]]'' after an unexpected timeline change when Rose prevents her father's death. In [[TV]]: ''The Big Bang'' the two versions of Amy have a different personal history with the lack of stars. (It's implied that Young Amy can still see them and is questioned by psychiatrists about them, which doesn't occur in the original timeline; also, it's not known whether her original meeting with the Doctor occurs in this timeline.) This is why she can touch her younger self (because they are people with the same genetic makeup, but different personal histories). This also explains why the Blinovitch Limitation Effect does occur with the Sonic Screwdriver, as it's an inanimate object, it does not have an alternate timeline. | ||
::::: '''NOTE''': Rose most '''''certainly does''''' touch her infant self in Father's Day: Pete takes baby Rose from Jackie and puts her in adult Rose's arms. The Doctor attempts to stop it, but is fractionally too slow. In spite of how short the duration of contact was, this causes a Reaper to appear inside the church and swallow the Doctor. ''Considering its significance on the plot, it was a really hard scene to miss.'' | |||
:::: When the two Brigadier's touch the effect is an explosion. When the two sonic screwdrivers touched in the previous episode it created a small spark. Therefore the effect seems to vary so it is possible the discharge is so small it is hard to see. | :::: When the two Brigadier's touch the effect is an explosion. When the two sonic screwdrivers touched in the previous episode it created a small spark. Therefore the effect seems to vary so it is possible the discharge is so small it is hard to see. | ||
