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The '''pre-universe''' was the [[universe]], perhaps the most recent of many universes, that came immediately before [[N-Space]], the home universe of [[the Doctor]].
Before [[Rassilon]] created the [[Web of Time]] the universe was not dictated by logic. This ''pre-time lord universe'' was ruled by magic and chaos. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'')


After the destruction of the Pre-Universe, some species found their way into N-Space and some (such as the [[Ancient Lights]], [[Great Old One]]s and [[The Beast (The Impossible Planet)|the Beast]]) had [[god]]-like powers. Thus, some of the most powerful beings in existence came from before the universe that was home to the [[Time Lord]]s began.{{what}} This made them older even than time itself. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Millennial Rites]]'', [[TV]]: ''[[The Impossible Planet (TV story)|The Impossible Planet]]'')
By [[the Doctor]]'s time those who knew about the universe before it was logical assumed that it was the universe that came before [[N-Space]], although it was actually [[N-Space]] before history was created. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Millennial Rites]]'',''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'')
 
When the universe was rationalized many powerful species fled into other realities, many found their way back into [[N-Space]] and some (such as the [[Ancient Lights]], [[Great Old One]]s and [[The Beast (The Impossible Planet)|the Beast]]) still followed the rules of the pre-time lord universe giving them [[god]]-like powers. Thus, some of the most powerful beings in existence came from before [[Rassilon]] created a structure for time, making them older even than time itself. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Millennial Rites]]'',''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'', [[TV]]: ''[[The Impossible Planet (TV story)|The Impossible Planet]]'')


== Characteristics ==
== Characteristics ==
The physics of this universe were different from N-space. Like N-Space,  [[magic]] was a powerful force here, and science did not exist. Unlike N-Space, it was never rationalised, and thus, science never worked, and magic always did.{{facts}}
The physics of this pre-Rassilon universe were different from the post-Rassilon universe. [[Magic]] was a powerful force here, and science did not exist. Before the Web of Time the universe was never rationalised, and thus, science never worked, and magic always did. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'')


The Doctor described the pre-universe to [[Anne Travers]].
The Doctor described the "pre-universe" to [[Anne Travers]].
{{quote|Before this universe was created, there was another one. A totally different universe, with alien physical laws. The heavens were green, and the stars looked like... giant doughnuts, to be brutally frank. Very, very different. And, as in this universe, there were people who discovered the deeper mysteries of time and space.|Sixth Doctor|Millennial Rites}}  
{{quote|Before this universe was created, there was another one. A totally different universe, with alien physical laws. The heavens were green, and the stars looked like... giant doughnuts, to be brutally frank. Very, very different. And, as in this universe, there were people who discovered the deeper mysteries of time and space.|Sixth Doctor|Millennial Rites}}  


Because of new laws like the [[speed of light]] or the charge of the [[electron]], the Great Old Ones found they had great power and became terrible gods. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'') The [[Shepherd and Shepherdess]] escaped the extinction of their universe (presumably this one) and arrived in N-space where their appearance became transparent. They moved without touching the ground and their hair and nails grew longer because they were dying in the new reality. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Persuasion (audio story)|Persuasion]]'')
Because of new laws like the [[speed of light]] or the charge of the [[electron]], the Great Old Ones found they had great power and became terrible gods. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'') The [[Shepherd and Shepherdess]] escaped the "extinction of their universe" (presumably the destruction of the everything illogical that occurred when time was mapped by Rassilon) and arrived in N-space where their appearance became transparent. They moved without touching the ground and their hair and nails grew longer because they were dying in the new reality. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Persuasion (audio story)|Persuasion]]'')


== Natives ==
== Natives ==
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== Knowledge ==
== Knowledge ==
Knowledge of this universe was a closely guarded secret.{{fact}} The [[Sixth Doctor]] only knew about it as a result of his connection to [[the Matrix]] during his time as [[Lord President]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Millennial Rites]]'', [[TV]]: ''[[The Invasion of Time]]'') Even then, the knowledge would have proven temporary: in his [[Sixth Doctor|sixth]] and [[Seventh Doctor|seventh]] incarnations, the Doctor was fully conversant with the details and specifics of this universe.{{what}} ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Synthespians™]]'') When [[the Beast (The Impossible Planet)|the Beast]] claimed to have existed before the universe, the [[Tenth Doctor]] found troubling to accept or consider as he believed nothing could have existed before the universe. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Satan Pit (TV story)|The Satan Pit]]'')
Knowledge of this universe was a closely guarded secret.{{fact}} The [[Sixth Doctor]] only knew about it as a result of his connection to [[the Matrix]] during his time as [[Lord President]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Millennial Rites]]'', [[TV]]: ''[[The Invasion of Time]]'') Even then, the knowledge would have proven temporary: in his [[Sixth Doctor|sixth]] and [[Seventh Doctor|seventh]] incarnations, the Doctor was fully conversant with the details and specifics of this universe.{{what}} ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Synthespians™]]'') When [[the Beast (The Impossible Planet)|the Beast]] claimed to have existed before the universe, the [[Tenth Doctor]] found troubling to accept or consider as he believed nothing could have existed before the universe. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Satan Pit (TV story)|The Satan Pit]]'')
[[Category:Other realities]]
[[Category:Other realities]]
[[Category:History]]
[[Category:History]]
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