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Before [[Rassilon]] created the [[Web of Time]] the universe was not dictated by logic. This ''pre- | Before [[Rassilon]] created the [[Web of Time]] the universe was not dictated by logic. This '''pre-universe''', before the [[Time Lord]]s, was ruled by [[magic]] and chaos. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'') | ||
By [[the Doctor]]'s time those who knew about the universe before it was logical assumed that it was the universe that came before [[N-Space]], although it was actually [[N-Space]] before history was created. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Millennial Rites]]'',''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'') | By [[the Doctor]]'s time those who knew about the universe before it was logical assumed that it was the universe that came before [[N-Space]], although it was actually [[N-Space]] before history was created. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Millennial Rites]]'',''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'') | ||
When the universe was | When the universe was rationalised, many powerful species fled into other realities, many found their way back into [[N-Space]] and some (such as the [[Ancient Lights]], [[Great Old One]]s and [[The Beast (The Impossible Planet)|the Beast]]) still followed the rules of the pre-time lord universe giving them [[god]]-like powers. Thus, some of the most powerful beings in existence came from before [[Rassilon]] created a structure for time, making them older even than time itself. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Millennial Rites]]'',''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'', [[TV]]: ''[[The Impossible Planet (TV story)|The Impossible Planet]]'') | ||
== Characteristics == | == Characteristics == | ||
The physics of this pre-Rassilon universe were different from the post-Rassilon universe. [[Magic]] was a powerful force here, and science did not exist. Before the Web of Time the universe was never rationalised, and thus, science never worked, and magic always did. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'') | The physics of this pre-Rassilon universe were different from the post-Rassilon universe. [[Magic]] was a powerful force here, and science did not exist. Before the Web of Time the universe was never rationalised, and thus, science never worked, and magic always did. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'') | ||
The Doctor described the | The Doctor described the pre-universe to [[Anne Travers]]. | ||
{{quote|Before this universe was created, there was another one. A totally different universe, with alien physical laws. The heavens were green, and the stars looked like... giant doughnuts, to be brutally frank. Very, very different. And, as in this universe, there were people who discovered the deeper mysteries of time and space.|Sixth Doctor|Millennial Rites}} | {{quote|Before this universe was created, there was another one. A totally different universe, with alien physical laws. The heavens were green, and the stars looked like... giant doughnuts, to be brutally frank. Very, very different. And, as in this universe, there were people who discovered the deeper mysteries of time and space.|Sixth Doctor|Millennial Rites}} | ||
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Amongst the races that claimed to be older than the universe itself were the [[Great Old One]]s such as [[Azathoth]], [[Yog-Sothoth]] and [[Shub-Niggurath]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Millennial Rites]]'') On many planets, these beings became part of the legends and religions. The Great Old Ones were worshipped by the first intelligent species to evolve on Earth - the [[Silurian]]s. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'') It is unclear whether the Great Old Ones were a single species, or merely a term to describe any unimaginably powerful being that had escaped the Pre-Universe into ours. | Amongst the races that claimed to be older than the universe itself were the [[Great Old One]]s such as [[Azathoth]], [[Yog-Sothoth]] and [[Shub-Niggurath]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Millennial Rites]]'') On many planets, these beings became part of the legends and religions. The Great Old Ones were worshipped by the first intelligent species to evolve on Earth - the [[Silurian]]s. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'') It is unclear whether the Great Old Ones were a single species, or merely a term to describe any unimaginably powerful being that had escaped the Pre-Universe into ours. | ||
The Beast claimed to have originated before the universe and to have been imprisoned by the [[Disciples of the Light]], likely placing both in the Pre-Universe. The Beast was also said to have been the inspiration for all [[Satan]]-like figures in the mythology of countless alien races, including the Demons of [[human]] mythology, the ancient [[Kaled]] God of War and the [[Draconian]] God of Evil. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Impossible Planet]]'' / ''[[The Satan Pit]]'') | [[The Beast (The Impossible Planet)|The Beast]] claimed to have originated before the universe and to have been imprisoned by the [[Disciples of the Light]], likely placing both in the Pre-Universe. The Beast was also said to have been the inspiration for all [[Satan]]-like figures in the mythology of countless alien races, including the Demons of [[human]] mythology, the ancient [[Kaled]] God of War and the [[Draconian]] God of Evil. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Impossible Planet]]'' / ''[[The Satan Pit]]'') | ||
The [[Ancient Lights]] were speculated by [[Luke Smith]] to have come from the Pre-Universe. ([[TV]]: ''[[Secrets of the Stars]]'') | The [[Ancient Lights]] were speculated by [[Luke Smith]] to have come from the Pre-Universe. ([[TV]]: ''[[Secrets of the Stars]]'') | ||
