Theory:Doctor Who television discontinuity and plot holes/Rise of the Cybermen: Difference between revisions

* Rose informs the Doctor that Mickey's parents are gone and that his grandmother raised him, but had stated earlier in ''[[Rose (TV story)|Rose]]'' that she would have to tell his mother about his death.

* When Rose decides to go look for her father, she defends by saying "You said 24 hours!" The Doctor hadn't told that to her as he and Mickey had just seen her.

 

* The Doctor and Rose don't have earpods when they are posing as the catering staff, wouldn't they get noticed?

* The Doctor says in ''[[Inferno (TV story)|Inferno]]'' that taking the alternate [[Lethbridge-Stewart (Inferno Earth)|Brigadier]], [[Elizabeth Shaw (Inferno Earth)|Liz Shaw]], [[Petra Williams (Inferno Earth)|Dr. Williams]], [[Greg Sutton (Inferno Earth)|Mr. Sutton]], etc. to his universe would cause a cosmic catastrophe, yet Mickey and Ricky are able to coexist without incident.

* After the Cybermen delete the president, why do they start deleting everyone else, even though they don't know if the people they are deleting want a 'free' upgrade?

* At the party a Cyberman says the humans are incompatible, yet they had converted homeless people, and would go on to convert en masse.

 

* This episode firmly establishes a discontinuity in Rose's age. Early in the story, The Doctor says Rose was 6 months old when her father died (November 1987) ([[TV]]:[[Father's Day (TV story)|Father's Day]]), placing her birthday in May 1987. However, Rose states that she would be 26 in 2012 ([[Dalek (TV story)|Dalek]]), and her age is stated to be 19 as early as [[The Unquiet Dead (TV story)]], prior to skipping a year in [[Aliens of London (TV story)|Aliens of London]]. We can deduce that Rose first started traveling with The Doctor in 2005 from Aliens of London. In order to be 19 when Rose started traveling, she would have had to be born in late 1985 to early 1986.

 

::Jackie's earpod's are special and different from most people's. Removing them might be a different process than simply taking them out. They could be grafted to her ears for all we know, we don't see her not wearing them after all.

:::This is unlikely. We see her mention them as part of a special delivery for her birthday. She likely just forgot about them in the panic.

::Most of the public clearly aren't aware of the earpod's mind control capabilities beyond the daily download. It's possible that some people may have taken them out once the Cybermen started deleting, but otherwise the earpods are used by people 24/7 to the point they simply forget about them, as Pete did until the Doctor reminded him.

 

* Lumic didn't ask Geneva for permission because they will ''"refuse"'' him. The fact he asked the [[President of Great Britain (Rise of the Cybermen)|President of Great Britain]] suggests he believes he won't be refused. It's a bit naïve, isn't it? Asking someone for permission who doesn't have the final say on whether the creation of Cybermen will be approved.

 

::It could be that a similar symbol exists in [[Pete's World]]. Also, I think this may belong under production errors.

 

::A telephone - even upgraded with a possibly Gallifreyan universal roaming chip (assuming the Doctor didn't just buy a job lot of them from a market stall on Manussa or something one day, on the off-chance that he'd end up travelling with some twenty-first century 'phone addicts) is still a vastly more primitive piece of equipment than a space/time machine, and - unlike a TARDIS - isn't specifically designed to navigate ''through'' that altered space. Your phone would work equally well on a boat sailing on a sea of marmite, but the boat wouldn't. Similarly, you could probably power a crude electric kettle designed for 230V AC on 120V if you had the appropriate foreign plug adaptor, albeit sluggishly, but an advanced electronic device would experience far more problems.

 

* First of February? Doesn't look like it. The predictable response is that, in this parallel universe, the months are altered. Yeah... so why does no one think anything about this? None of the trio care or notice, and if the months are different, that suggests a huge list of massive ramifications between this universe and ours which ultimately must be contradictory in ways impossible. [[User:Wozza123|Wozza123]] [[User talk:Wozza123|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:51, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

::They are also time travelers. Rose's dad is alive. Rose is a dog in this universe. Those differences from the prime universe are made clear and accepted, so the date seeming a little out of sorts with the stereotypical weather one may expect would not really register to the characters, not is this a plot hole.