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Before the [[Event One|Big Bang]], there existed the '''pre-universe'''. Accounts differ as to what it actually was. | |||
According to most accounts, there was another [[universe]] before the Big Bang which operated on different laws of physics. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Satan Pit (TV story)|The Satan Pit]]'', [[AUDIO]]: ''[[Persuasion (audio story)|Persuasion]]'', [[PROSE]]: ''[[Millennial Rites (novel)|Millenial Rites]]'') However, the [[Carnival Queen]] indicated that this was not a separate universe, but the state of reality before the [[Time Lord]]s created the [[Web of Time]] and, by [[the Doctor]]'s time, those who knew about the pre-universe logically assumed that it was the previous universe. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'') | |||
Another | Another source indicated that the only thing that existed before the Big Bang was a particle of [[space]] and [[time]] smaller than an [[atom]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Nothing O'Clock (short story)|Nothing O'Clock]]'') | ||
[[The Beast (The Impossible Planet)|The Beast]], who purportedly came from this time, stated his origins were from the time before N-Space "came into existence" and before "the cataclysm". The Tenth Doctor disbelieved this, saying, "No life could have existed back then." ([[TV]]: ''[[The Satan Pit (TV story)|The Satan Pit]]'') | |||
When [[N-Space]] was created, many powerful species fled into other realities and over time many found their way back into [[N-Space]]. Some (such as the [[Great Old One]]s) still followed the rules of the pre-universe, giving them [[god]]-like powers. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Millennial Rites]]'', ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'') | |||
[[River Song]] noted a theory for the [[SporeShip]]s' origin, that they were leftover weapons from the war that wiped out the previous universe. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Signs (audio story)|Signs]]'') | [[River Song]] noted a theory for the [[SporeShip]]s' origin, that they were leftover weapons from the war that wiped out the previous universe. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Signs (audio story)|Signs]]'') | ||
== Characteristics == | == Characteristics == | ||
The physics of | The physics of the pre-universe were different from the physics of [[N-Space]]. [[Magic]] was a powerful force here, and science did not exist. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'') | ||
The Doctor described the pre-universe to [[Anne Travers]]. | The Doctor described the pre-universe to [[Anne Travers]]. | ||
{{quote|Before this universe was created, there was another one. A totally different universe, with alien physical laws. The heavens were green, and the stars looked like... giant doughnuts, to be brutally frank. Very, very different. And, as in this universe, there were people who discovered the deeper mysteries of time and space.|Sixth Doctor|Millennial Rites}} | {{quote|Before this universe was created, there was another one. A totally different universe, with alien physical laws. The heavens were green, and the stars looked like... giant doughnuts, to be brutally frank. Very, very different. And, as in this universe, there were people who discovered the deeper mysteries of time and space.|Sixth Doctor|Millennial Rites (novel)}} | ||
Because of new laws like the [[speed of light]] or the charge of the [[electron]], the Great Old Ones found they had great power and became terrible gods. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'') The [[Shepherd and Shepherdess]] escaped the "extinction of their universe" and arrived in N-space where their appearance became transparent. They moved without touching the ground and their hair and nails grew longer because they were dying in the new reality. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Persuasion (audio story)|Persuasion]]'') | Because of new laws like the [[speed of light]] or the charge of the [[electron]], the Great Old Ones found they had great power and became terrible gods. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'') The [[Shepherd and Shepherdess]] escaped the "extinction of their universe" and arrived in N-space where their appearance became transparent. They moved without touching the ground and their hair and nails grew longer because they were dying in the new reality. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Persuasion (audio story)|Persuasion]]'') | ||
== Natives == | == Natives == | ||
Amongst the races that claimed to be older than the universe itself were the [[Great Old One]]s such as [[Azathoth]], [[Yog-Sothoth]] and [[Shub-Niggurath]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Millennial Rites]]'') On many planets, these beings became part of the legends and religions. The Great Old Ones were worshipped by the first intelligent species to evolve on Earth - the [[Silurian]]s. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'') | Amongst the races that claimed to be older than the universe itself were the [[Great Old One]]s such as [[Azathoth]], [[Yog-Sothoth]] and [[Shub-Niggurath]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Millennial Rites]]'') On many planets, these beings became part of the legends and religions. The Great Old Ones were worshipped by the first intelligent species to evolve on Earth - the [[Silurian]]s. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'') | ||
[[The Beast (The Impossible Planet)|The Beast]] claimed to have originated before the universe. He said was imprisoned by the [[Disciples of the Light]] deep beneath [[Krop Tor]] "before time... before time and light and space and matter, before the cataclysm, before this universe came into existence", likely placing both in that time. The Tenth Doctor believed that "no life could have existed back then." The Doctor wondered if the idea for all [[Satan]]-like figures in the mythology of "a million worlds", including that of [[Earth]], [[Draconia]], [[Vel Consadine]], [[Dæmos]], and the [[Kaled]]s' God of War, had maybe bled through as a thought in the back of "every sentient mind". The Beast himself claimed to be the Devil of "all" religions, which included the [[Arkiphets]], [[Quoldonity]], [[Christianity]], [[Pash Pash]], [[New Judaism]], [[San Klah]] and the [[Church of the Tin Vagabond]]. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Satan Pit]]'') | [[The Beast (The Impossible Planet)|The Beast]] claimed to have originated before the universe. He said was imprisoned by the [[Disciples of the Light]] deep beneath [[Krop Tor]] "before time... before time and light and space and matter, before the cataclysm, before this universe came into existence", likely placing both in that time. The Tenth Doctor believed that "no life could have existed back then." The Doctor wondered if the idea for all [[Satan]]-like figures in the mythology of "a million worlds", including that of [[Earth]], [[Draconia]], [[Vel Consadine]], [[Dæmos]], and the [[Kaled]]s' God of War, had maybe bled through as a thought in the back of "every sentient mind". The Beast himself claimed to be the Devil of "all" religions, which included the [[Arkiphets]], [[Quoldonity]], [[Christianity]], [[Pash Pash]], [[New Judaism]], [[San Klah]] and the [[Church of the Tin Vagabond]]. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Satan Pit]]'') | ||
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== Knowledge == | == Knowledge == | ||
Knowledge of | Knowledge of the pre-universe was a closely guarded secret. The [[Sixth Doctor]] only knew about it as a result of his connection to [[the Matrix]] during his time as [[Lord President]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Millennial Rites (novel)|Millennial Rites]]'', [[TV]]: ''[[The Invasion of Time (TV story)|The Invasion of Time]]'') During his encounter with the [[Carnival Queen]], the [[Seventh Doctor]] learned that the Time Lords had misinterpreted their knowledge of the pre-universe. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'') | ||
[[Category:Universes and dimensions]] | [[Category:Universes and dimensions]] | ||
[[Category:History]] | [[Category:History]] | ||
[[Category:Universe]] | [[Category:Universe]] | ||
