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I share your concerns about picture placement, and indeed they are ones also conveyed by [[user:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]. As I explained to him, however, there was no way to test this in some sort of sandbox or hypothetical way, as the effect had to be seen on real pages.
I share your concerns about picture placement, and indeed they are ones also conveyed by [[user:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]. As I explained to him, however, there was no way to test this in some sort of sandbox or hypothetical way, as the effect had to be seen on real pages.


Each page has a different TOC and a different ratio of text to picture. Consequently the "picture placement" issue actually ''doesn't'' affect the majority of pages. See, for example, ''[[The Reign of Terror]]'', ''[[The Dalek Invasion of Earth]]'', ''[[Day of the Daleks]]'', ''[[The Krotons]]'', ''[[The Seeds of Doom]]'', ''[[The Ultimate Foe]]'', and, say, ''[[Survival]]''. None of these picture displays are negatively impacted by the TOC move. This is because they are adequately written, with a decent-sized lead and synopses. It's also because these pages, by and large, don't try to put the picture immediately under the episode number subhead (though ''[[Survival]]'' proves you ''can'' get away with it, if the lead and synopsis are long enough).
Each page has a different TOC and a different ratio of text to picture. Consequently the "picture placement" issue actually ''doesn't'' affect the majority of pages. See, for example, ''[[The Reign of Terror]]'', ''[[The Dalek Invasion of Earth]]'', ''[[Day of the Daleks]]'', ''[[The Krotons]]'', ''[[The Seeds of Doom (TV story)|The Seeds of Doom]]'', ''[[The Ultimate Foe]]'', and, say, ''[[Survival]]''. None of these picture displays are negatively impacted by the TOC move. This is because they are adequately written, with a decent-sized lead and synopses. It's also because these pages, by and large, don't try to put the picture immediately under the episode number subhead (though ''[[Survival]]'' proves you ''can'' get away with it, if the lead and synopsis are long enough).


So the '''best''' solution to the tiny problem being caused here is simply to fix the defects that are inherent in the pages, anyway. '''As long as the non-illustrated text extends to the bottom of the infobox, picture placement is unaffected.''' And, given the new, narrower page widths, that's not asking for all that much text. Also, it makes relatively little design sense for the first picture on a page with an infobox to be sent to the right side. Even without this change, that means that the picture is going to be underneath the major graphical element on the page. On most of these problematic pages, simply "left"ing the first picture snaps everything into place nicely.
So the '''best''' solution to the tiny problem being caused here is simply to fix the defects that are inherent in the pages, anyway. '''As long as the non-illustrated text extends to the bottom of the infobox, picture placement is unaffected.''' And, given the new, narrower page widths, that's not asking for all that much text. Also, it makes relatively little design sense for the first picture on a page with an infobox to be sent to the right side. Even without this change, that means that the picture is going to be underneath the major graphical element on the page. On most of these problematic pages, simply "left"ing the first picture snaps everything into place nicely.
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