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::: To make this usable, it is necessary to base each template on some recognisable event that is not going to be changed by later stories. If these templates require updating every year, they are pretty much useless because there will be no uniformity in their use either across editors or over time. The actors' names were chosen at the time, I believe, because they really provide a watershed-like moment ''for the writers''. Because Delgado, Jacobi's and other portrayals were original, future writers based their narratives on them. When the Master regenerates into Jacobi in a Titan comic story ''[[The One (comic story)|The One]]'', it is Jacobi's face we see. In other words, Jacobi's incarnation has proved over time to be a stable staple of the Master's life. Gomez's Missy is also completely narratively delineated, no fuzziness there in the sense that there will not be disagreement among editors on what that could mean. However, Dreyfus Master is less obvious and does merit community discussion. Pratt also has to be discussed because using it requires changing policy. | ::: To make this usable, it is necessary to base each template on some recognisable event that is not going to be changed by later stories. If these templates require updating every year, they are pretty much useless because there will be no uniformity in their use either across editors or over time. The actors' names were chosen at the time, I believe, because they really provide a watershed-like moment ''for the writers''. Because Delgado, Jacobi's and other portrayals were original, future writers based their narratives on them. When the Master regenerates into Jacobi in a Titan comic story ''[[The One (comic story)|The One]]'', it is Jacobi's face we see. In other words, Jacobi's incarnation has proved over time to be a stable staple of the Master's life. Gomez's Missy is also completely narratively delineated, no fuzziness there in the sense that there will not be disagreement among editors on what that could mean. However, Dreyfus Master is less obvious and does merit community discussion. Pratt also has to be discussed because using it requires changing policy. | ||
::: I think this discussion is long overdue and propose you to initiate it at Panopticon. You clearly spent a lot of time researching the Master's life and can, therefore, identify the best watershed events that are stable enough to be used in these templates. It is quite possible that most of your already created templates will persevere (perhaps, renamed) but this time with the blessing of the community. The important thing to remember is that we do not need a separate template for each actor. We do not need to find artificial points that separate Dreyfus from Hughes. (Perhaps, the departure from Gallifrey might provide a true watershed.) And we may not really need a template pointing to the beginning of the Master's biography, to the first Master from birth. In terms of navigation, it simply seems superfluous to me. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:35, January 13, 2018 (UTC) | ::: I think this discussion is long overdue and propose you to initiate it at Panopticon. You clearly spent a lot of time researching the Master's life and can, therefore, identify the best watershed events that are stable enough to be used in these templates. It is quite possible that most of your already created templates will persevere (perhaps, renamed) but this time with the blessing of the community. The important thing to remember is that we do not need a separate template for each actor. We do not need to find artificial points that separate Dreyfus from Hughes. (Perhaps, the departure from Gallifrey might provide a true watershed.) And we may not really need a template pointing to the beginning of the Master's biography, to the first Master from birth. In terms of navigation, it simply seems superfluous to me. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:35, January 13, 2018 (UTC) | ||
: I started a talk page on Panopticon, but no one contributed.[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:11, February 12, 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Do not use this template == | == Do not use this template == | ||
Please do not use this template as its scope and usefulness are currently under review and it is quite likely that the template will be deleted. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:10, January 8, 2018 (UTC) | Please do not use this template as its scope and usefulness are currently under review and it is quite likely that the template will be deleted. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:10, January 8, 2018 (UTC) | ||
