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:::I would hope though that we are all in agreement that he is the last of Boekind at the very least. That said, I would wager that by virtue of him being the first TRUE immortal that I am aware of in the series (not counting entities such as the Old Ones and other Pre-Event things) that it is easy to assume that he is also the first of what I can only assume is in essence at the very least a very very long lived race, if not an immortal race. (I mean I don't even think Jack technically died of Old Age in the more traditional sense...) [[User:Cledwin83|Cledwin83]] <sup>[[User talk:Cledwin83|talk to me]]</sup> 14:40, December 29, 2011 (UTC) | :::I would hope though that we are all in agreement that he is the last of Boekind at the very least. That said, I would wager that by virtue of him being the first TRUE immortal that I am aware of in the series (not counting entities such as the Old Ones and other Pre-Event things) that it is easy to assume that he is also the first of what I can only assume is in essence at the very least a very very long lived race, if not an immortal race. (I mean I don't even think Jack technically died of Old Age in the more traditional sense...) [[User:Cledwin83|Cledwin83]] <sup>[[User talk:Cledwin83|talk to me]]</sup> 14:40, December 29, 2011 (UTC) | ||
::::What? Why the heck would [[Rex Matheson]] ''possibly'' be considered Boekind? He's obviously human, from Earth. This conversation is slipping off the rails. Like Tybort said, it's ''absolutely'' debatable that Jack is Boekind ''at all'', so to extrapolate yet another step is fairly — what's the word for it? — '''''crazy'''''. We have exactly one narrative snippet here. Jack says he grew up on the Boeshane Peninsula. He was handsome. Therefore the Time Agency calls him the "Face of Boe". That doesn't mean he's Boekind. That doesn't mean he becomes the [[Face of Boe]] that features in ''[[Gridlock]]''. That means that "Boeshane Peninsula" is sometimes contracted to the word "Boe". That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. That is the only '''''fact''''' which can be gleaned from ''[[Last of the Time Lords]]'', and mention of "Boekind" has never since happened. | ::::What? Why the heck would [[Rex Matheson]] ''possibly'' be considered Boekind? He's obviously human, from Earth. This conversation is slipping off the rails. Like Tybort said, it's ''absolutely'' debatable that Jack is Boekind ''at all'', so to extrapolate yet another step is fairly — what's the word for it? — '''''crazy'''''. We have exactly one narrative snippet here. Jack says he grew up on the Boeshane Peninsula. He was handsome. Therefore the Time Agency calls him the "Face of Boe". That doesn't mean he's Boekind. That doesn't mean he becomes the [[Face of Boe]] that features in ''[[Gridlock (TV story)|Gridlock]]''. That means that "Boeshane Peninsula" is sometimes contracted to the word "Boe". That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. That is the only '''''fact''''' which can be gleaned from ''[[Last of the Time Lords]]'', and mention of "Boekind" has never since happened. | ||
::::We therefore have no narrative proof that Jack is "Boekind". We have no tie between the words "Boekind" and "the Boeshane Peninsula". In the intervening time, we've seen Jack die in a variety of ways, and he ''always'' reverts to a [[John Barrowman]]-shaped near-human. There is absolutely no narrative indication that he is progressing towards a look even vaguely resembling the [[Face of Boe]], nor have we seen any basis for believing that Jack's ''voice'' is mutating into that of the Face of Boe. '''According to in-universe evidence, Jack is not the [[Face of Boe]]. There is merely an amusing coincidence between his nickname as a lad and that of the "last of Boekind". | ::::We therefore have no narrative proof that Jack is "Boekind". We have no tie between the words "Boekind" and "the Boeshane Peninsula". In the intervening time, we've seen Jack die in a variety of ways, and he ''always'' reverts to a [[John Barrowman]]-shaped near-human. There is absolutely no narrative indication that he is progressing towards a look even vaguely resembling the [[Face of Boe]], nor have we seen any basis for believing that Jack's ''voice'' is mutating into that of the Face of Boe. '''According to in-universe evidence, Jack is not the [[Face of Boe]]. There is merely an amusing coincidence between his nickname as a lad and that of the "last of Boekind". | ||
