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==Class==
==Class==
There should be some mention made of Class here (which does have connection to UNIT as UNIT's been referenced a few times in the spin-off). The Series 8 episode "In the Forest of the Night" states that that episode takes place in 2016 (which makes sense as there is dialogue in "The Caretaker" indicating that Clara and Danny have known each other for at least a full school year by that point, even though they meet for the first time in "Into the Dalek"). Working from there, "Last Christmas" could only have taken place in 2016 if not later, and then we have all the events of Series 9 before Clara's death, so she couldn't have died earlier than 2017. Yet the first season of Class has had several direct references to taking place in 2016, but after Clara's death. I think that's a legitimate enough conundrum to be included in the "Other" section. And since the show is making at least a peripheral connection to UNIT (I stopped watching the show after the first couple episodes but a character was trying to hack UNIT in one of them) I think it's worth noting. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] [[User talk:23skidoo|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:41, November 14, 2016 (UTC)
There should be some mention made of Class here (which does have connection to UNIT as UNIT's been referenced a few times in the spin-off). The Series 8 episode "In the Forest of the Night" states that that episode takes place in 2016 (which makes sense as there is dialogue in "The Caretaker" indicating that Clara and Danny have known each other for at least a full school year by that point, even though they meet for the first time in "Into the Dalek"). Working from there, "Last Christmas" could only have taken place in 2016 if not later, and then we have all the events of Series 9 before Clara's death, so she couldn't have died earlier than 2017. Yet the first season of Class has had several direct references to taking place in 2016, but after Clara's death. I think that's a legitimate enough conundrum to be included in the "Other" section. And since the show is making at least a peripheral connection to UNIT (I stopped watching the show after the first couple episodes but a character was trying to hack UNIT in one of them) I think it's worth noting. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] [[User talk:23skidoo|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:41, November 14, 2016 (UTC)
== The Ripple Effect ==
My resolution of the controversy comes from how I resolve NuWho canon contradicting Classic Who: the Time War.
It's established in the Big Finish Time War audios how the TW affects all of time, chopping, changing, rewriting. Throw into the mix the Master activating the Heavenly Paradigm and it's not a big stretch to imagine that time before the Time War became so convoluted that only after the war ended in relative time did time settle down. Except the damage was done enough for new relative time to rewrite the old time (pre-Time War), which allows NuWho canon to supersede Classic Who.
So, if the Time War managed to distort time so heavily as to reset a huge amount of canon that was established before (e.g. How 2018 is supposed to look, widespread usage of 4:3 video screens in Classic Who instead of 16:9), then it's not too far a stretch to consider that time might also not have completely healed itself, allowing different versions of the same timeline to exist or to have existed. Consider the Daleks, for instance. Though their history was massively rewritten by Genesis, one thing about it has always bugged me: vertical slats on the midriffs. The Daleks in The Dead Planet did not have them, yet the Genesis Daleks did. Could it be that this is a ripple effect caused by the distortion of time?
In that case, the UNIT dating controversy could be resolved by the constant rewriting of time caused by the Time War. The events happened, yet did not happen, e.g. the Brigadier was able to retire at the point he did because time had been shuffled about so much.
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