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:::To sum up, [[User:SOTO]] and [[User:OncomingStorm12th]] are right: we don't put information on [[Tardis:In-universe perspective|in-universe]] pages that doesn't come from the stories. Out of universe info and speculation are not valid for in-universe articles. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:28, December 2, 2018 (UTC) | :::To sum up, [[User:SOTO]] and [[User:OncomingStorm12th]] are right: we don't put information on [[Tardis:In-universe perspective|in-universe]] pages that doesn't come from the stories. Out of universe info and speculation are not valid for in-universe articles. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:28, December 2, 2018 (UTC) | ||
:: The issue here is that it's two equally-valid paradigms where "Time Lord" is either the name of the species, or of a rank within that species. There's perfectly valid evidence of both usages of the term. But as both sides agree on the meaning of "Gallifreyan" (it's just that one thinks it's synonym with Time Lord whereas the other thinks they're separate things), I think "Gallifreyan" should probably be the default unless in-universe sources personally call the character a "Time Lord". | |||
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::(Do note that the Moffat quote from ''Listen'' is, perhaps deliberately, ambiguous; "he'll never make a Time Lord" could just as easily be Gallifrey's version of "making a man out of smbd." as it could refer to a rank the Doctor might fail to reach.) | |||
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:: However, an aspect that has been overlooked is that depending on whether or not the Doctor is half-human, at least one of the grandmothers might not be Gallifreyan/Time Lord at all, but rather a human woman. So on the basis of ''that'' I think we really haven't grounds to make a definitive statement about the grandmothers' species at ''all''. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:55, December 5, 2018 (UTC) |