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What I really did not expect is for "The New Adventures" to be an imprint. Hmm... [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:57, September 26, 2018 (UTC)
What I really did not expect is for "The New Adventures" to be an imprint. Hmm... [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:57, September 26, 2018 (UTC)


:... huh. Yeah, that's really weird. That "imprint of Virgin Publishing Ltd" line wasn't on the back cover of [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/264454187176165380/519545745188061201/61dyingRR.jpg ''The Dying Days'',] but it looks like it stayed all the way to [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/264454187176165380/519546941940563978/23twilightRR.jpg the final NA] (long after they'd scrapped that "The New Adventures" logo for the more ambiguous "NA"). I really can't believe I've never noticed this before; sorry I've taken so long to even see this reply.
:... huh. Yeah, that's really weird. That "imprint of Virgin Publishing Ltd" line wasn't on the back cover of [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/264454187176165380/519545745188061201/61dyingRR.jpg ''The Dying Days''], but it looks like it stayed all the way to [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/264454187176165380/519546941940563978/23twilightRR.jpg the final NA] (long after they'd scrapped that "The New Adventures" logo for the more ambiguous "NA"). I really can't believe I've never noticed this before; sorry I've taken so long to even see this reply.


:So what would that mean for our treatment of these pages? ''[[The New Adventures]]'' about the imprint, with separate sections for the equally-anonymous "new series" and its predecessor? I'm thinking of coughing up the dough and getting a copy of ''Bernice Summerfield: The Inside Story'' to see if that will shed any further light on the topic. – [[User:NateBumber|N8]] [[User_talk:NateBumber|☎]] 00:12, December 5, 2018 (UTC)
:So what would that mean for our treatment of these pages? ''[[The New Adventures]]'' about the imprint, with separate sections for the equally-anonymous "new series" and its predecessor? I'm thinking of coughing up the dough and getting a copy of ''Bernice Summerfield: The Inside Story'' to see if that will shed any further light on the topic. – [[User:NateBumber|N8]] [[User_talk:NateBumber|☎]] 00:12, December 5, 2018 (UTC)
=== Data from the novel ''The Dying Days'' ===
Oh, here's something. [[User:JayRed584]] has provided me with [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/264454187176165380/523512540945317900/IMG_20181215_144950.jpg this page from the end of ''The Dying Days'',] which has some very relevant quotes:
# "The New Adventures began in 1992 ... The Missing Adventures started two years later. ''The Dying Days'' and ''The Well-Mannered War'' are, respectively, the sixty-first and the twenty-third in the two series. They are also, both, the last."
# "This book, ''The Dying Days'' by Lance Parkin, also presages a new beginning ... We're waving goodbye to the Doctor, not to the New Adventures."
# "From May 1997 onwards the New Adventures will blaze a trail into uncharted territories"
# "''Oh No It Isn't!'' by Paul Cornell, the first of the ''new'' New Adventures."
# "Doctors may come and Doctors may go, but with your support the New Adventures can go on forever."
These quotes are a little bit conflicting: #1 explicitly says that ''The Dying Days'' is the last New Adventures novel, but then #2 and #4 both make it clear that the New Adventures are not ending in ''The Dying Days'' and are continuing. (I quite don't know what's signified by "''new'' New Adventures" in #3!)
By my reading, this seems to support the "two series, neither of which have individual names, but both of which are under the New Adventures pseudo-imprint" interpretation. At which point I must scratch my head over whether that, in practice, would look any differently from the merger-with-separated-sections idea already in place on [[User:NateBumber/Sandbox4|my Sandbox]].
In any case, what's clear is that "Virgin Bernice Summerfield New Adventures" (or even "Virgin New Adventures", come to think of it) is completely unattested in official merchandising, so either way ''something'' should be changed. – [[User:NateBumber|N8]] [[User_talk:NateBumber|☎]] 15:50, December 15, 2018 (UTC)
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