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=== Discontinuity, Plot Holes, Errors === | === Discontinuity, Plot Holes, Errors === | ||
*If no [[Human]] had ever heard of the [[Ice Warrior]]s then how can the events of [[NA]]: ''[[The Dying Days]]'' not be known by the Humans? ''The novels may not be considered canon, by the current production team, also that event may have been in flux. It is never explicitly stated that Humans have never heard of the Ice Warriors. When the Doctor mentions them, Adelaide simply states, "I haven't got time for stories." There is also copious examples of [[Dalek]] and [[Cybermen]] incursions that should have become widely known but were not.'' | *If no [[Human]] had ever heard of the [[Ice Warrior]]s then how can the events of [[NA]]: ''[[The Dying Days]]'' not be known by the Humans? (''The novels may not be considered canon, by the current production team, also that event may have been in flux. It is never explicitly stated that Humans have never heard of the Ice Warriors. When the Doctor mentions them, Adelaide simply states, "I haven't got time for stories." There is also copious examples of [[Dalek]] and [[Cybermen]] incursions that should have become widely known but were not.'') | ||
*After the explosion of the shuttle, several fires are burning all around the site. Taking into account the initial explosion was fueled by the base's oxygen, and given that Mars has no appreciable atmosphere, how can these smaller fires burn in the vacuum? ''Because Mars does have an atmosphere, albeit one with a pressure roughly equivalent to one hundredth that of Earth's atmosphere.'' | *After the explosion of the shuttle, several fires are burning all around the site. Taking into account the initial explosion was fueled by the base's oxygen, and given that Mars has no appreciable atmosphere, how can these smaller fires burn in the vacuum? (''Because Mars does have an atmosphere, albeit one with a pressure roughly equivalent to one hundredth that of Earth's atmosphere.'') | ||
*Given that Mars's thin atmosphere consists primarily of carbon dioxide, with a very small concentration of oxygen (which is required for combustion), how can the smaller fires after the explosion burn? ''There is a lot we don't know about Bowie Base One. We don't know what sort of fuel they're using, we don't know how the self-destruct mechanism on the rocket works.'' | *Given that Mars's thin atmosphere consists primarily of carbon dioxide, with a very small concentration of oxygen (which is required for combustion), how can the smaller fires after the explosion burn? (''There is a lot we don't know about Bowie Base One. We don't know what sort of fuel they're using, we don't know how the self-destruct mechanism on the rocket works.'') | ||
*In ''[[Father's Day]]'' The Reapers turned up due to Rose saving her father when somebody who was dead is now alive - surely this should be the case now for Yuri and Mia as they should have died but are now alive. ''The Reapers only showed up in Fathers Day due to Rose saving her father's life, as then, that altered the timeline meaning that in the future Rose wouldn't have travelled to the past to save her father, causing a paradox, the Doctor only changed the future when he saved Adelaide's life. Had Adelaide's granddaughter travelled back in time to save her grandmother, for instance, that would more likely have caught the Reapers' attention. Also, as Adelaide almost immediately kills herself, thereby maintaining the timeline save for relatively minor alterations, there was no need for the Reapers to appear.'' | *In ''[[Father's Day]]'' The Reapers turned up due to Rose saving her father when somebody who was dead is now alive - surely this should be the case now for Yuri and Mia as they should have died but are now alive. (''The Reapers only showed up in Fathers Day due to Rose saving her father's life, as then, that altered the timeline meaning that in the future Rose wouldn't have travelled to the past to save her father, causing a paradox, the Doctor only changed the future when he saved Adelaide's life. Had Adelaide's granddaughter travelled back in time to save her grandmother, for instance, that would more likely have caught the Reapers' attention. Also, as Adelaide almost immediately kills herself, thereby maintaining the timeline save for relatively minor alterations, there was no need for the Reapers to appear.'') | ||
*The news article on Adelaide claims that she was born in 1999 and yet was also 10 when her parents died in 2008. ''The events of [[DW]]: ''[[Journey's End]]'' took place in 2009, which would make Adelaide 10 years-old.'' | *The news article on Adelaide claims that she was born in 1999 and yet was also 10 when her parents died in 2008. (''The events of [[DW]]: ''[[Journey's End]]'' took place in 2009, which would make Adelaide 10 years-old.'') | ||
*The news article identifies ''[[The Stolen Earth]]'' as occuring in 2008, instead of 2009 (as the show's been a year ahead since ''[[Aliens of London]]''). ''The production team have deliberately stated that Series Three occurs within a space of a few days to rectify the year-off discrepancy that Aliens of London introduced, so the Whoniverse timeline is in sync with ours again. | *The news article identifies ''[[The Stolen Earth]]'' as occuring in 2008, instead of 2009 (as the show's been a year ahead since ''[[Aliens of London]]''). ''The production team have deliberately stated that Series Three occurs within a space of a few days to rectify the year-off discrepancy that Aliens of London introduced, so the Whoniverse timeline is in sync with ours again.'' | ||
*The news article on the mission refers to "Dr Tarak Ital MD." It would be correct to write either the "Dr" or the "MD," but both at once is redundant and grammatically incorrect. Ital's obituary also misspells "Havana". ''It is correct if the person has both an MD and a PhD.'' | *The news article on the mission refers to "Dr Tarak Ital MD." It would be correct to write either the "Dr" or the "MD," but both at once is redundant and grammatically incorrect. Ital's obituary also misspells "Havana". ''It is correct if the person has both an MD and a PhD.'' | ||
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*When it is revealed that Maggie is one of the creatures, the outer shot shows her hair back while in the closer shot, it is around her face. | *When it is revealed that Maggie is one of the creatures, the outer shot shows her hair back while in the closer shot, it is around her face. | ||
*Why didn't the Doctor simply take the crew into the distant future or the distant past? History would have been preserved as the records would show the crew were killed in the nuclear explosion. ''At this point the Doctor wasn't just concerned with saving the crew - he was, as he said, fighting the very laws of time themselves. In that state of mind, delivering the crew to another point in time would not have been as great a victory for him. He ''wanted'' to break the laws of time. Likely he felt that doing so successfully would mean he could also delay or prevent his own death, which has been foreshadowed in several episodes leading up to ''[[The End of Time]]''.'' | *Why didn't the Doctor simply take the crew into the distant future or the distant past? History would have been preserved as the records would show the crew were killed in the nuclear explosion. ''At this point the Doctor wasn't just concerned with saving the crew - he was, as he said, fighting the very laws of time themselves. In that state of mind, delivering the crew to another point in time would not have been as great a victory for him. He '''wanted''' to break the laws of time. Likely he felt that doing so successfully would mean he could also delay or prevent his own death, which has been foreshadowed in several episodes leading up to ''[[The End of Time (TV story)|The End of Time]]''.'' | ||
== Continuity == | == Continuity == | ||
