Howling:Midnight Entity: Difference between revisions

I'm a seperate person, and I think this is correct. I have also developed a little theory for how he appeared on Midnight, and I think it is connected to both 'The Waters of Mars' and the ring...[[Special:Contributions/114.76.162.83|114.76.162.83]] 23:17, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, if the Midnight Entity is the Master, here's my theory for how it happened, though its a bit weird. First, we need to know who it was who picked up the ring. That will probably be revealed in End of Time. If it fell into Donna's hands, then possibly the consciousness inside the ring could have escaped onto Midnight. It said 'It's waited so long'. That could be how it felt to the creature, or it could have escaped the TARDIS during its course to Midnight and arrived anywhere on that planet's timeline. Now, if it was just a consciousness at the time, we still need to find how it could knock, or cast a shadow (though it (the shadow) have been a figment of the mechanic's imagination, caused by pyschic influence, and the knocking could have been actually cooling, but its precision being under the creature's influence. From there, it uses its (unhindered by bodily limits) pyschic abilities to cause the short-lived, but violent events before possessing Sky. Having been through the Time Vortex, and hypnotic abilities being possibly able to (albeit inaccurately) predict the mind patterns of beings, this would have been strengthened through its unprotected time travel, and so it could use this to guess speech patterns in order to mimic. I'm sure we can now easily guess the rest up to the end of Midnight.[[Special:Contributions/114.76.162.83|114.76.162.83]] 23:34, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Another theory suggests that Donna picked up the Ring, seeing as Donna wasn't present, she could've been possesed by the Ring and she could've then been the Midnight entity, with no memories when she returns. She could've passed the Master's consciousness into Sky, but that would mean the Master's dead. But they'll find a way around it. Also, I doubt this'll actually happen, seeing as the Xtonic radiation would've killed Donna. Still, if it is true, they'll find a way around it. [[User:Bigredrabbit|Bigredrabbit]] 05:28, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Finally people are starting to acknowledge the Black Guardian. I've been saying this ages ago. Its definetly the Black Guardian or it could be a tie in to lead to the Black Guardian.

Right, just to get things clear. It is obvious (and been stated) that the old series stories have nothing to do with the new series. There have been no references to the black guardian, the trickster is not the midnight entity and has nothing to do with the doctor who xmas specials. Neither does the minight entity, there is no evidence to suggest it. The villain for the last specials is the master - if you include stuff like the black guardian and the trickster and the midnight entity you make it overcomplicated. Since the last 2 specials dont just occur on earth, it is possible that some previous time lords are coming back. [[User:Saxon 3|Saxon 3]] 12:03, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Yes it has been confirmed by Dvid Tennant, Julie Gardener, John Simm himself and various other poeple. Plus it's says so on BBC's Doctor Who website. And yes SOME people will be in PREMONITIONS including Ood Sigma. Also The Master's return has also been confirmed by David Harewood who plays Joshua Naismith. Asfor the knocking in waters of mars and midnight, Yes it is a COINCIDENCE. Stop over complicating things.

Actually no it's not a coincidence - becuase THE DOCTOR knocked four times to see if the entity replied and The entity just COPIED him. So NO THE MIDNIGHT ENTITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EITHER THE MASTER OR ANY OF THE OTHER CHRISTMAS SPECIALS OR WATERS OF MARS. FULL STOP [[User:Saxon 3|Saxon 3]] 12:08, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

I am another user and i believed that the MIDNIGHT ENTITY is the BEAST. The beast( a very powerful being)could have survived the blast from the rocket and the midnight entity said he needed a body and that he had been waiting a long time. so maybee...

the Doctor seemed to be the Main Target of The Midnight Entity  and wanted to kil the Doctor, Maybe the Midnight Entity could actually be The Masters psycic Telepathic infulence that he could use on the ood in The End of Time, remember that picture of the Doctor kneeling to the Red Eye ood Sigma (Who could be possessed by the Master or Midnight Entity), maybe he is kneeliing because the Doctor is paralysed like in Midnight. [[Special:Contributions/91.104.36.181|91.104.36.181]] 21:44, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

After watching the episode Midnignt like a billions times (I love the episode that much), I noticed more and more things. I looked into its behaviour, and what enemy of the Doctor is most relates to. We mustn't forget that it '''wanted him dead with an utter rage'''- but why? As soon as the passangers got hold of him, Midnight, possesing Sky, shouted in the most satisfied maner, "THROW HIM OUT! GET RID OF HIM! NOW!"

Midnight knocked four times; the music that played with the four knocks prohecy was 'Midnight', and the same music that played when Midnight began knocking. So Midnight is 'he', knocking four times, and Midnight was ' waiting in the dark'? That's very Russel T. Davies, he plays with words and places clues as to who or what is returning. Note: he wrote Midnight, he normally only writes episodes that he importance.

And really, the Doctor had never been so scared- his fear in Midnight mimiced his fear after hearing about the four knocks, too. Plus, the entity had never attacked before... it only attacked when the Doctor came, and it targeted him as if they had met once before, with utter hatred towards him. The Doctor himself asks the etntity ''why'' it tagreted him and theorised about it, but then said, "But your eyes, they're saying something else..." The pasngers themselves heighlight to viewers that 'think about it, though, that knocking. In the 'next time' trailer for Midnight, you clearly hear a notable 'knock, knock, knock, knock' coming from the entity. [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 15:30, November 25, 2009 (UCT)

the Midnght Entity could either be the Masters power of telepathy, the devil, The Trickster or the Black Guardian.