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:::::::::: Big Finish establishes the fact that the Meta-Crisis Doctor goes by the name, "Doctor" within the first 5 minutes of [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/The_Siege_of_Big_Ben_(audio_story) The Siege of Big Ben.] The director of Unit also calls him The Doctor before the end of story as well. They are well into living their lives in Pete's World. In the follow up, [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Flight_Into_Hull!_(audio_story) Flight Into Hull!], Jackie says flat out that he is "still the Doctor!" In TtotT, it says he picks his new name only days after arriving on Bad Wolf Bay and is then never once referred to as The Doctor. They also have different careers in both; In the audios he and Rose both work for Unit and live in London and in TtotT they are a Doctor and teacher respectively living on the south coast.--[[User:Ibelieveinher|Ibelieveinher]] [[User talk:Ibelieveinher|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:19, October 25, 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::: Big Finish establishes the fact that the Meta-Crisis Doctor goes by the name, "Doctor" within the first 5 minutes of [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/The_Siege_of_Big_Ben_(audio_story) The Siege of Big Ben.] The director of Unit also calls him The Doctor before the end of story as well. They are well into living their lives in Pete's World. In the follow up, [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Flight_Into_Hull!_(audio_story) Flight Into Hull!], Jackie says flat out that he is "still the Doctor!" In TtotT, it says he picks his new name only days after arriving on Bad Wolf Bay and is then never once referred to as The Doctor. They also have different careers in both; In the audios he and Rose both work for Unit and live in London and in TtotT they are a Doctor and teacher respectively living on the south coast.--[[User:Ibelieveinher|Ibelieveinher]] [[User talk:Ibelieveinher|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:19, October 25, 2019 (UTC)
:I hardly think these are irreconcilable. We can simply stucture the page as: "days after arriving in Pete's World, Rose confronted the Meta-Crisis Doctor about him using the name ''the Doctor''. He then chose the name "Corin" for himself, and became a [[doctor]], while Rose went on being a teacher. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[The Turning of the Tide (short story)|The Turning of the Tide]]'')  Year laters, "Corin" once again called himself "the Doctor", and worked for UNIT ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Siege of Big Ben (audio story)|The Siege of Big Ben]]'', ''[[Flight Into Hull! (audio story)|Flight Into Hull!]]'')" etc etc.  
:I hardly think these are irreconcilable. We can simply stucture the page as: "days after arriving in Pete's World, Rose confronted the Meta-Crisis Doctor about him using the name ''the Doctor''. He then chose the name "Corin" for himself, and became a [[doctor]], while Rose went on being a teacher. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[The Turning of the Tide (short story)|The Turning of the Tide]]'')  Year laters, "Corin" once again called himself "the Doctor", and worked for UNIT ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Siege of Big Ben (audio story)|The Siege of Big Ben]]'', ''[[Flight Into Hull! (audio story)|Flight Into Hull!]]'')" etc etc.  
:I ''do'' agree (from the info we gathered) that we need to take care ''where'' in the article we refer to him as "Corin" and when we refer to him as "the Doctor". Does anyone disagree with the compromise I proposed above (which would of course be further developed if put on the page)? [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:31, October 25, 2019 (UTC)  
:I ''do'' agree (from the info we gathered) that we need to take care ''where'' in the article we refer to him as "Corin" and when we refer to him as "the Doctor". Does anyone disagree with the compromise I proposed above (which would of course be further developed if put on the page)? [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:31, October 25, 2019 (UTC)
 
:: I believe that when speaking about TtotT he should of course be referred to as Corin, but to change any mention elsewhere is too far. The show called him a Meta-Crisis (he himself was adamant that he was The Doctor), and Big Finish has chosen that he goes by The Doctor as well. I think to try and combine the two for the sake of everyone isn't our place. The same way Susan's previous names are mentioned when referring to those stories, the same should be done for The Meta-Crisis. Keep 'The Doctor' with the audios and keep 'Corin' with the Target Story. We could get int othe fact that RTD, David Tennant, and Billie Piper (along with his specific fans, for good reason) all call him Tentoo, but the overall neutral is still Meta-Crisis Doctor.--[[User:Ibelieveinher|Ibelieveinher]] [[User talk:Ibelieveinher|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:37, October 25, 2019 (UTC)
 
The disagreement is with the fact that in a specific tweet from the author, she states that she decided to go a different direction from Big Finish, therefore making her story an AU and not related to Big Finish in anyway. They are two separate verses. Someone else posted a link to the author's tweet in the section below. -Tentooisthedoctor


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:::The tweet was in response to a question: "Are you tying into what they did with the Big Finish short stories at all? Or taking a different path?" Her response was as follows: "I LOVED the Big Finish shorts but I have gone a different way. xxxxx" [https://twitter.com/jennycolgan/status/1160092825742188544?s=20 Author's Tweet] --[[User:Gingergallifreyan125|Gingergallifreyan125]] [[User talk:Gingergallifreyan125|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:00, October 25, 2019 (UTC)
:::The tweet was in response to a question: "Are you tying into what they did with the Big Finish short stories at all? Or taking a different path?" Her response was as follows: "I LOVED the Big Finish shorts but I have gone a different way. xxxxx" [https://twitter.com/jennycolgan/status/1160092825742188544?s=20 Author's Tweet] --[[User:Gingergallifreyan125|Gingergallifreyan125]] [[User talk:Gingergallifreyan125|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:00, October 25, 2019 (UTC)
:With all respect, I think that the anonymous user read too much into her tweet. The most straight-foward (and most likely) interpretation for her answer ("different way") means just that: her story isn't continuity-linked with the two BF Short Trips. But then again, neither are ''any'' of the stories in this anthology. That's not the point of the stories. Most likely, she just meant that there wasn't any intention on this story being written to tie-in with these stories - but jumping from this to "this story and the two Short Trips take place in alternate realities" is a ''very big'' stretch. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:35, October 25, 2019 (UTC)
:With all respect, I think that the anonymous user read too much into her tweet. The most straight-foward (and most likely) interpretation for her answer ("different way") means just that: her story isn't continuity-linked with the two BF Short Trips. But then again, neither are ''any'' of the stories in this anthology. That's not the point of the stories. Most likely, she just meant that there wasn't any intention on this story being written to tie-in with these stories - but jumping from this to "this story and the two Short Trips take place in alternate realities" is a ''very big'' stretch. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:35, October 25, 2019 (UTC)
:::: I did a deep search of her twitter today as well and she is very clear that the two stories are not connected. As you said, they're not continuity linked so it would be unwise to try and connect them or any moniker used from one to the other.--[[User:Ibelieveinher|Ibelieveinher]] [[User talk:Ibelieveinher|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:42, October 25, 2019 (UTC)
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