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The '''pre-universe''', also called the '''Dvapara Yuga''', was the reality that preceded or was replaced by the start of [[N-Space]], which would in turn be followed by the [[after-universe]].
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The '''time before time''', also called the '''Dvapara Yuga''', was the universe that preceded or was replaced by [[N-Space]].


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{{quote|Before this universe was created, there was another one. A totally different universe, with alien physical laws. The heavens were green, and the stars looked like... giant doughnuts, to be brutally frank. Very, very different. And, as in this universe, there were people who discovered the deeper mysteries of time and space.|Sixth Doctor|Millennial Rites (novel)}}
{{quote|Before this universe was created, there was another one. A totally different universe, with alien physical laws. The heavens were green, and the stars looked like... giant doughnuts, to be brutally frank. Very, very different. And, as in this universe, there were people who discovered the deeper mysteries of time and space.|Sixth Doctor|Millennial Rites (novel)}}


However, the [[Seventh Doctor]] learned from the [[Carnival Queen]] that the [[Time Lord]]s had misinterpreted their knowledge of the pre-universe and, rather than being an actual separate [[universe]], the pre-universe was the state of reality before the Time Lords created the [[Web of Time]] ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'') during the [[anchoring of the thread]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[The Book of the War (novel)|The Book of the War]]'') Rather than the [[Kaliyuga]] coming after the Dvapara Yuga, it replaced it. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Dharmayuddha (short story)|Dharmayuddha]]'')
However, the [[Seventh Doctor]] learned from the [[Carnival Queen]] that the [[Time Lord]]s had misinterpreted their knowledge of the pre-universe and, rather than being an actual separate [[universe]], the pre-universe was the state of reality before the Time Lords created the [[Web of Time]] ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'') during the [[anchoring of the thread]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[The Book of the War (novel)|The Book of the War]]'') The [[Kaliyuga]] did not merely follow the Dvapara Yuga, it replaced it. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Dharmayuddha (short story)|Dharmayuddha]]'')


Before the Time Lords created the Web of Time, the universe obeyed no laws of physics, and [[magic]] was a powerful force. There existed cities with buildings carved from mile-high arches of [[ivory]], with streets made of [[cobweb]] and gardens tended by stone men. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'') Many [[human]]s had semi-[[god|divine]] powers: for instance, [[Arjuna]] had one thousand arms and was ardently skilled at compressing time, while [[Nakula and Sahadeva]] led armies of imaginary [[hybrid]] animals made of broken time. The [[Great Houses]]' plan for ending the Dvapara Yuga involved starting the [[Kurukshetra war]] between the [[Pandava]]s and [[Kaurava]]s. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Dharmayuddha (short story)|Dharmayuddha]]'') [[River Song]] noted a theory that the [[SporeShip]]s were leftover weapons from the war that wiped out the previous universe. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Signs (audio story)|Signs]]'')
Before the Time Lords created the Web of Time, the universe obeyed no laws of physics, and [[magic]] was a powerful force. There existed cities with buildings carved from mile-high arches of [[ivory]], with streets made of [[cobweb]] and gardens tended by stone men. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'') Many [[human]]s had semi-[[god|divine]] powers: for instance, [[Arjuna]] had one thousand arms and was ardently skilled at compressing time, while [[Nakula and Sahadeva]] led armies of imaginary [[hybrid]] animals made of broken time. The [[Great Houses]]' plan for ending the Dvapara Yuga involved starting the [[Kurukshetra war]] between the [[Pandava]]s and [[Kaurava]]s. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Dharmayuddha (short story)|Dharmayuddha]]'') [[River Song]] noted a theory that the [[SporeShip]]s were leftover weapons from the war that wiped out the previous universe. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Signs (audio story)|Signs]]'')
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The [[Tenth Doctor]] said that no life could have existed before the universe came into existence. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Satan Pit (TV story)|The Satan Pit]]'') However, many races claimed to be older than the universe itself. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Millennial Rites (novel)|Millennial Rites]]'', ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'', [[TV]]: ''[[The Satan Pit (TV story)|The Satan Pit]]'', [[AUDIO]]: ''[[Persuasion (audio story)|Persuasion]]'')
The [[Tenth Doctor]] said that no life could have existed before the universe came into existence. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Satan Pit (TV story)|The Satan Pit]]'') However, many races claimed to be older than the universe itself. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Millennial Rites (novel)|Millennial Rites]]'', ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'', [[TV]]: ''[[The Satan Pit (TV story)|The Satan Pit]]'', [[AUDIO]]: ''[[Persuasion (audio story)|Persuasion]]'')


When the new universe was created, many powerful species from the pre-universe fled into other realities but over time found their way back. Some, like the [[Great Old One]]s, still followed the rules of the pre-universe, giving them [[god]]-like powers. On many planets, these beings became part of the legends and religions. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Millennial Rites (novel)|Millennial Rites]]'') [[The Beast (The Impossible Planet)|The Beast]] was trapped under [[Krop Tor]] by the [[Disciples of the Light]] before light, time, space, or matter existed, and he remained there during and after the creation of the universe. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Impossible Planet (TV story)|The Impossible Planet]]'') He claimed to have inspired the Devil of all religions, including the [[Arkiphets]], [[Quoldonity]], [[Christianity]], [[Pash Pash]], [[New Judaism]], [[San Klah]], and the [[Church of the Tin Vagabond]]. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Satan Pit (TV story)|The Satan Pit]]'')
When the new universe was created, many powerful species from the pre-universe fled into other realities but over time found their way back. Some, like the [[Great Old One]]s, still followed the rules of the pre-universe, giving them [[god]]-like powers. On many planets, these beings became part of the legends and religions. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'', ''[[Millennial Rites (novel)|Millennial Rites]]'')
 
[[The Beast (The Impossible Planet)|The Beast]] was trapped under [[Krop Tor]] by the [[Disciples of the Light]] before light, time, space, or matter existed, and he remained there during and after the creation of the universe. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Impossible Planet (TV story)|The Impossible Planet]]'') He claimed to have inspired the Devil of all religions, including the [[Arkiphets]], [[Quoldonity]], [[Christianity]], [[Pash Pash]], [[New Judaism]], [[San Klah]], and the [[Church of the Tin Vagabond]]. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Satan Pit (TV story)|The Satan Pit]]'')
 
To survive in the new universe, some entities survived by rooting themselves in [[fantasy]] and [[faith]], becoming [[god]]s of different planets. In the [[Sol system]], [[Gaia]] aligned with [[Earth]], [[Ares (Wandering Stars)|Ares]] with [[Mars]], [[Aphrodite]] with [[Venus]], and [[Pan]] with [[El Mundo]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[The Rise and Fall of Señor 105 (novel)|The Rise and Fall of Señor 105]]'')


The [[Shepherd and Shepherdess]] escaped the "extinction of their universe" and arrived in [[N-Space]], where they became transparent in appearance. They moved without touching the ground and their hair and nails grew longer because they were dying in the new reality. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Persuasion (audio story)|Persuasion]]'')
The [[Shepherd and Shepherdess]] escaped the "extinction of their universe" and arrived in [[N-Space]], where they became transparent in appearance. They moved without touching the ground and their hair and nails grew longer because they were dying in the new reality. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Persuasion (audio story)|Persuasion]]'')
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