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::In terms of ''Doctor Who''-related precedents, ''The Fan Show'' using the acronym is interesting, but I'd raise you ''Queers Dig Time Lords'' — not to mention one of RTD's big successes prior to ''Doctor Who'' having been ''Queer As Folk''. Both terms definitely have tractions in Whoniverse circles — I think we can afford, one way or another, to make our own choice without worrying about ''that'' side of the equation overmuch. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:26, June 12, 2020 (UTC)
::In terms of ''Doctor Who''-related precedents, ''The Fan Show'' using the acronym is interesting, but I'd raise you ''Queers Dig Time Lords'' — not to mention one of RTD's big successes prior to ''Doctor Who'' having been ''Queer As Folk''. Both terms definitely have tractions in Whoniverse circles — I think we can afford, one way or another, to make our own choice without worrying about ''that'' side of the equation overmuch. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:26, June 12, 2020 (UTC)
:::(I personally see no need to change, the usual term used in technical circles is "queer", hence "queer studies" and "queer theory". [Though technical terms are not always in accordance with what people in the LGBTQ community like, transsexual still being a term used, for instance, though in a very specific manner.] But I fully recognize that as someone who's straight my view doesn't count for that much on if someone is offended. My point is just if we do this, add in the plus sign.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:38, June 12, 2020 (UTC)
:::(I personally see no need to change, the usual term used in technical circles is "queer", hence "queer studies" and "queer theory". [Though technical terms are not always in accordance with what people in the LGBTQ community like, transsexual still being a term used, for instance, though in a very specific manner.] But I fully recognize that as someone who's straight my view doesn't count for that much on if someone is offended. My point is just if we do this, add in the plus sign.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:38, June 12, 2020 (UTC)
:::: I'd be cool with LGBTQ+. No complaints from me. LGBTQ+ includes people who do choose to identify as queer, whereas just using queer puts all LGBT+ people who don't identify in a bubble in which they are not comfortable. It's true and perfectly legitimate for people to reclaim offensive words, of course, but I do disagree with its use here. -- [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Saxon]] ([[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|✉️]]) 21:46, June 12, 2020 (UTC)
:::: I'd be cool with LGBTQ+. No complaints from me. LGBTQ+ includes people who do choose to identify as queer, whereas just using queer puts all LGBT+ people who don't identify in a bubble in which they are not comfortable. It's true and perfectly legitimate for people to reclaim offensive words, of course, but I do disagree with its use here. -- [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Saxon]] ([[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|✉️]]) 21:46, June 12, 2020 (UTC)
Not my place to talk if it should be queer or LGBTQ+, so I won't chime in on this part. Just wondering if we could make it "in Doctor Who related media" as opposed to just "in Doctor Who", since we cover all of the spinoffs too as I mentioned above. [[User:Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived|Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived]] [[User talk:Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:51, June 12, 2020 (UTC)
Not my place to talk if it should be queer or LGBTQ+, so I won't chime in on this part. Just wondering if we could make it "in Doctor Who related media" as opposed to just "in Doctor Who", since we cover all of the spinoffs too as I mentioned above. [[User:Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived|Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived]] [[User talk:Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:51, June 12, 2020 (UTC)
: Good point, though it should either be "in ''Doctor Who'' and related media", or else "in ''Doctor Who''-related media" with the hyphen. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:57, June 12, 2020 (UTC)
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