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::::Perhaps parallel torchwood was set up to combat the cybermen rather than the doctor. The levers were perhaps used to open the breach so that the teleports could work across universes. Then once the breach was wide enough, the levers were no longer required for the teleports to work. | ::::Perhaps parallel torchwood was set up to combat the cybermen rather than the doctor. The levers were perhaps used to open the breach so that the teleports could work across universes. Then once the breach was wide enough, the levers were no longer required for the teleports to work. | ||
:::::Torchwood is mentioned by Pete in [[Rise of the Cybermen (TV story)]], therefore it would have to have been created before the Cybus conversions. Torchwood is named after Torchwood House, perhaps Victoria is killed in alternate events in [[Tooth and Claw (TV story)]]. This would lead to Edward VII coming to the throne earlier. Anyone who knows about his private life would know he was rather scandalous, though by 1879 he had long been married. This also perhaps leads to Prince Albert Victor ascending to the throne instead of dying, Albert had been the subject of much speculation with his mental health and many conspiracy theories (including, though debunked, Jack the Ripper). These factors combined could lead to a republican (or Communist) revolution which establishes the "People's Republic" Jake mentions taking control of Torchwood in this episode. Without the Doctor, this also would explain why Pete's World's Torchwood is seemingly so advanced compared to the Doctor's universe. | :::::Torchwood is mentioned by Pete in [[Rise of the Cybermen (TV story)]], therefore it would have to have been created before the Cybus conversions. Torchwood is named after Torchwood House, perhaps Victoria is killed in alternate events in [[Tooth and Claw (TV story)]]. This would lead to Edward VII coming to the throne earlier. Anyone who knows about his private life would know he was rather scandalous, though by 1879 he had long been married. This also perhaps leads to Prince Albert Victor ascending to the throne instead of dying, Albert had been the subject of much speculation with his mental health and many conspiracy theories (including, though debunked, Jack the Ripper). These factors combined could lead to a republican (or Communist) revolution which establishes the "People's Republic" Jake mentions taking control of Torchwood in this episode. Without the Doctor, this also would explain why Pete's World's Torchwood is seemingly so advanced compared to the Doctor's universe. | ||
:::: re: parallel torchwood even existing, I would argue that you can go a lot simpler than the above answers. It's a Parallel Earth, that has loads of things that shouldn't exist. Why would someone with Pete's exact DNA exist? The chance of that is miniscule, let alone that he'll have the same name and the same wife, but timey-wimey parallel earth things mean that the same things exist, even in a completely different world. Echos across the universes or however you want to explain it. | |||
* When Rose was explaining to Mickey about background radiation she said that Mickey had also travelled in time but technically he had never travelled in time at that point but rather had only fallen through the void in a dead TARDIS to a parallel world and back to the regular world through a device that hops the void. Void stuff and background radiation are supposed to be 2 different things accumulated by different circumstances. So Mickey couldn’t have possibly powered the Genesis ark unless simply traveling from location to location in the same time also gathers Background radiation. Or if Mickey had travelled through time in a previous off screen adventure. | * When Rose was explaining to Mickey about background radiation she said that Mickey had also travelled in time but technically he had never travelled in time at that point but rather had only fallen through the void in a dead TARDIS to a parallel world and back to the regular world through a device that hops the void. Void stuff and background radiation are supposed to be 2 different things accumulated by different circumstances. So Mickey couldn’t have possibly powered the Genesis ark unless simply traveling from location to location in the same time also gathers Background radiation. Or if Mickey had travelled through time in a previous off screen adventure. | ||
:: Mickey had traveled through time. In the episode "The Girl in the Fireplace" The Doctor, Rose and Mickey landed in the SS Madame de Pompadour in the 51st century. | :: Mickey had traveled through time. In the episode "The Girl in the Fireplace" The Doctor, Rose and Mickey landed in the SS Madame de Pompadour in the 51st century. | ||
* When we see the daleks flying into the breach at the end, why don't we see any cybermen at all? During those few minutes there should have been approximately 5 million flying in (allowing for casualties/battlefield conversions) but we only see daleks. How come? | * When we see the daleks flying into the breach at the end, why don't we see any cybermen at all? During those few minutes there should have been approximately 5 million flying in (allowing for casualties/battlefield conversions) but we only see daleks. How come? | ||
:: There are (according to the doctor) millions of Daleks, and all of them are centered right outside the window, having just come from the Genesis Ark. The Cybermen meanwhile are scattered all across the world, with only thousands in London. The ones further away might not have reached the breach, and the ones in London - I guess you'd just have to assume they also got sucked in, we just didn't see them compared to the huge amount of daleks. (and any that have been destroyed wouldn't be spotted, and any converted might not have void stuff on them, having been made in our Earth) | |||
* The parallel world discs seem to vary in how they work. Sometimes when someone presses one, it only transports them. Sometimes it transports everyone in the vicinity who is wearing one. | * The parallel world discs seem to vary in how they work. Sometimes when someone presses one, it only transports them. Sometimes it transports everyone in the vicinity who is wearing one. | ||
:: I'd guess there's settings that they can change that we don't see. | |||
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