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: Agreed, and yes it is used in the actual story. Not as frequently as "Time Commander" though. [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:06, 6 December 2020 (UTC) | : Agreed, and yes it is used in the actual story. Not as frequently as "Time Commander" though. [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:06, 6 December 2020 (UTC) | ||
:: | ::Thanks for verifying the name. Although ''Time Commander'' is definitely used more than ''Dalek Time Commander'', I'd opt for the latter as it's specifically referring to a [[Dalek]] and not potentially some other species. It's like how the page on [[Dalek Time Strategist (The Shadow Vortex)]] uses ''Dalek Time Strategist'' even though said Dalek is more often just called the ''Time Strategist''. The full name, even if used less often, is more accurate and has an in-universe use. The same logic applies to the Time Commander. [[User:CyberFoundries900|CyberFoundries900]] [[User talk:CyberFoundries900|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:17, 6 December 2020 (UTC) | ||
:::To play Devil's advocate — is "Dalek" really part of the ''full name'', or is it more of a "demonym"? We have [[President (Death Comes to Time)]], not [[American President (Death Comes to Time)]], and I imagine we still would name the page like that even if he was described as "the American President" in dialogue, absent need for dabbing. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:34, 6 December 2020 (UTC) | :::To play Devil's advocate — is "Dalek" really part of the ''full name'', or is it more of a "demonym"? We have [[President (Death Comes to Time)]], not [[American President (Death Comes to Time)]], and I imagine we still would name the page like that even if he was described as "the American President" in dialogue, absent need for dabbing. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:34, 6 December 2020 (UTC) | ||
::::What indicates to you that the "Dalek" in ''Dalek Time Commander'' is a demonym? If we start assuming that all uses of the word "Dalek" in the names of individual Daleks are just as demonyms, and should therefore be removed, we get left with names such as [[Time Controller]] rather than [[Dalek Time Controller]], or [[Strategist (New Dalek Paradigm)]] over [[Dalek Strategist (New Dalek Paradigm)]]. We get names that end up being unnecessarily vague as to who they're referring to. If we are to call the aforementioned pages as they currently are, with ''specific'' use of the word Dalek in their names (as I believe they should be), I believe that rule should apply to all individual Daleks, so long as they are referred to with the word ''Dalek'' in their name in an in-universe source. An example of when we ''wouldn't'' use the word ''Dalek'' in an individual Dalek's name would be [[Overseer (Planet of the Ogrons)]], as said Dalek is never referred to as ''Dalek Overseer'' in its sole appearance - just "Overseer". | |||
::::Therefore I see no reason to view the word "Dalek" as a demonym when used as part of an individual Dalek's title. This includes the Time Commander - if it’s explicitly referred to as the "Dalek Time Commander" and not indirectly, such as in a sentence like "the Time Commander was a Dalek", then I believe it's page name should be "Dalek Time Commander" and not "Time Commander". Also, if we are referring to the other Daleks in the [[Dalek Time Squad]] as [[Dalek Prime Strategist]] or [[Dalek Executioner (The Guide to the Dark Times)]], which the Time Commander is also a part of, then there's no need to be explicitly vague with the Time Commander's page name. [[User:CyberFoundries900|CyberFoundries900]] [[User talk:CyberFoundries900|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:19, 6 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
