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:On a policy level, such a high-level merging endeavour would technically be better served by a Forum thread, but well, the Forum is frozen, and the complaints are coming in now. I don't think it would do any harm to start ''some'' deletions/mergers already. For example — since this is the talk page you chose to make your statement on — then insofar as the concept of a "sexual fetish" exists in the DWU, it's clearly just a facet of what [[Sexuality]] is, so we could already merge the weird list into ''that'' and make ''that'' page more meaningful in the process. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:48, 26 March 2021 (UTC) | :On a policy level, such a high-level merging endeavour would technically be better served by a Forum thread, but well, the Forum is frozen, and the complaints are coming in now. I don't think it would do any harm to start ''some'' deletions/mergers already. For example — since this is the talk page you chose to make your statement on — then insofar as the concept of a "sexual fetish" exists in the DWU, it's clearly just a facet of what [[Sexuality]] is, so we could already merge the weird list into ''that'' and make ''that'' page more meaningful in the process. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:48, 26 March 2021 (UTC) | ||
:: I would like to note my agreement with the above (whilst again noting my appreciation of how well the pages I called upon in that discussion about slurs were dealt with), and I will note some ideas I would have in mind for remedying this present unpleasant situation, as if I'm reading the above correctly, this has been decided as the place to discuss all these. (Of course, not being an admin, I don't know what's doable now but it's worth noting all my thoughts even if some can't be tackled until we have the Forums back.) | |||
:: We've shown with the precedent of the outcome of the slurs discussion that my idea that pages can be deemed indecent and unnecessary in a separate page instance. I agree that we could merge the content here into Sexuality. | |||
:: Other pages of note; | |||
* Casual Sex and Oral Sex, as minimal pages with little individual value, if the content is to be kept, can surely be combined into Sex. | |||
* The items of anatomy (particularly the two very notables starting with c and starting with p) can surely be redistributed into either the Human page as a new section on human anatomy or perhaps into the currently one-line Anatomy page. | |||
* Cumming and Orgasm - they're both about the same story, they're both incredibly short, and they're providing no informational value at all. Surely those can merge or go too? | |||
* Breast - we don't need a dedicated page in my opinion. The breast cancer and breast implants remarks are covered on their own pages (and could also be reiterated where the anatomy stuff would go). The rest of that opening paragraph could then move to wherever the other items of anatomy go. And the CoFD material is actually already sufficiently covered on the etheric beam locators page. The quote from Combat can perhaps fill out Tommy's own page instead, or the plot section of Combat. Ditto for the GBB instance and Tosh & Ghosts of N-Space and Jeremy. Resurrection of Mars - I'll admit lack of familiarity but is there any reason to highlight Lucie's breasts in context of her disguise? I'm struggling on that myself. Then, we're just left with the I Am The Dalek, and Doomsday Manuscript - and I'm sure someone can figure out a proposal for how to tackle those. | |||
:: In a more far reaching point, I think in continued coverage of such matters - wherever they end up - that they be protected pages and restricted to statements based around exact quotations as the majority of this page is. That way, we would constrict ourselves to noting only what has been said in-universe (meaning the instances are documented primarily as a resource for anyone looking for examples of such things as written within the Whoniverse. Again, I'm sure there are a few lines of Moffat that would be understandably sought out by anyone looking at the Wiki for instances of female character dialogue he had that was rather... teeth-grating, if I can put it that way. I know we have to maintain neutrality in writing such a page, but I would think that having a list page instead that is clearly marked as something for people to use in academic discussions about characterisation could be done, and then those using it can make the arguments they wish using the quotations we've listed. If that makes sense?) Keeping such a page protected would also mean that new additions would need to passed through the staff, meaning there'd be no scope for repetition of the Cleavage page situation and its distasteful content. | |||
:: And of course, further down the line, we can - if the content/trigger warnings discussion rules in favour of adding such warnings - add sufficient warning headers about the nature of some of those remarks (Last Night comes to mind...). [[User:JDPManjoume|JDPManjoume]] [[User talk:JDPManjoume|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:43, 26 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
::I've left my opinion on the talkpage for [[Poof]] and this is exactly why I said that multiple of the same comment should not be left on numerous talkpages as it would lead to the same conversations happening over and over. Regardless, pages such as "poof", in my opinion, could be grouped into "slurs". It doesn't need a page shoving the word "poof" in my face. The nature of Wikis is that there are no trigger warnings. I don't want anyone to come to this Wiki, seeing "poof" and being upset or triggered by it. I agree with the sentiments that anything that happens or is mentioned in an adult spin-off should get equal treatment, but don't quite understand why slurs must be separated individually and given their own pages. It's quite frankly embarrassing when I'm going through social media and Tardis Wiki is, quite rightly, getting slated. | ::I've left my opinion on the talkpage for [[Poof]] and this is exactly why I said that multiple of the same comment should not be left on numerous talkpages as it would lead to the same conversations happening over and over. Regardless, pages such as "poof", in my opinion, could be grouped into "slurs". It doesn't need a page shoving the word "poof" in my face. The nature of Wikis is that there are no trigger warnings. I don't want anyone to come to this Wiki, seeing "poof" and being upset or triggered by it. I agree with the sentiments that anything that happens or is mentioned in an adult spin-off should get equal treatment, but don't quite understand why slurs must be separated individually and given their own pages. It's quite frankly embarrassing when I'm going through social media and Tardis Wiki is, quite rightly, getting slated. | ||
