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* The name "Caecilius" translates roughly to "blind", which might be a reference to the people of Pompeii being "blind" about the upcoming eruption. | * The name "Caecilius" translates roughly to "blind", which might be a reference to the people of Pompeii being "blind" about the upcoming eruption. | ||
* The names Caecilius, Metella and Quintus were taken from the historical character of {{w|Lucius Caecilius Iucundus}}, as well as his wife Metella and his son {{w|Quintus Caecilius Iucundus}}, all of whom featured in Book 1 of the ''Cambridge Latin Course'', which is also set in [[Pompeii]]. | * The names Caecilius, Metella and Quintus were taken from the historical character of {{w|Lucius Caecilius Iucundus}}, as well as his wife Metella and his son {{w|Quintus Caecilius Iucundus}}, all of whom featured in Book 1 of the ''Cambridge Latin Course'', which is also set in [[Pompeii]]. | ||
* The Doctor jokes that Donna is from [[Barcelona]], | * The Doctor jokes that Donna is from [[Barcelona]], in reference to a catchphrase from the sitcom [[Basil Fawlty|''Fawlty Towers'']]. The Ninth and Tenth Doctors also talked of visiting the planet [[Barcelona (planet)|Barcelona]] with their companion. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Parting of the Ways (TV story)|The Parting of the Ways]]'' and ''[[Children in Need Special (TV story)|Born Again]]'') | ||
* The Caecilius family scrambling to steady fragile valuables every time the house shakes is very similar to a bit from Mary Poppins, even down to the shouting of "Positions!" | *The Caecilius family scrambling to steady fragile valuables every time the house shakes is very similar to a bit from Mary Poppins, even down to the shouting of "Positions!" | ||
* The episode addresses a long-standing issue of the "gift of translation" the Doctor or the TARDIS bestows upon companions. It is revealed that while the Doctor and Donna hear the Romans speaking colloquial English, with Cockney accents in some cases, the Romans hear them speaking Latin. When Donna and the Doctor actually speak Latin phrases e.g. "Veni, vidi, vici", the Romans hear this as Celtic, as the English language hadn't yet developed. The Doctor seems to have been unaware of what would happen in such a case. | *The episode addresses a long-standing issue of the "gift of translation" the Doctor or the TARDIS bestows upon companions. It is revealed that while the Doctor and Donna hear the Romans speaking colloquial English, with Cockney accents in some cases, the Romans hear them speaking Latin. When Donna and the Doctor actually speak Latin phrases e.g. "Veni, vidi, vici", the Romans hear this as Celtic, as the English language hadn't yet developed. The Doctor seems to have been unaware of what would happen in such a case. | ||
* Discounting [[Doctor Who (TV story)|the ''Doctor Who'' TV movie]] (1996), which was filmed in Canada, and ''[[Daleks in Manhattan (TV story)|Daleks in Manhattan]]'', which featured some second-unit photography in [[New York City]] but nothing involving the cast, this is the first regular-series episode to be filmed outside the UK since ''[[The Two Doctors (TV story)|The Two Doctors]]'', which was filmed in [[Spain]] in [[1984 (production)|1984]]. | *Discounting [[Doctor Who (TV story)|the ''Doctor Who'' TV movie]] (1996), which was filmed in Canada, and ''[[Daleks in Manhattan (TV story)|Daleks in Manhattan]]'', which featured some second-unit photography in [[New York City]] but nothing involving the cast, this is the first regular-series episode to be filmed outside the UK since ''[[The Two Doctors (TV story)|The Two Doctors]]'', which was filmed in [[Spain]] in [[1984 (production)|1984]]. | ||
* This episode's events were deeply engraved in the Doctor's subconscious. So when he regenerated into the [[Twelfth Doctor]], his subconscious chose the face of [[Caecilius]] to remind him to always try saving someone, no matter what the consequences were. | *This episode's events were deeply engraved in the Doctor's subconscious. So when he regenerated into the [[Twelfth Doctor]], his subconscious chose the face of [[Caecilius]] to remind him to always try saving someone, no matter what the consequences were. | ||
* According to David Tennant on the episode commentary track, when the Doctor breaks off Lucius's arm, the original script had the Doctor throw it on the ground to break it into pieces. Tennant requested that this part be taken out, as he figured it was far too violent and destructive for the Doctor. Both him and Catherine Tate still consider the final cut to be "aggressive" by the Doctor's usual standards. | *According to David Tennant on the episode commentary track, when the Doctor breaks off Lucius's arm, the original script had the Doctor throw it on the ground to break it into pieces. Tennant requested that this part be taken out, as he figured it was far too violent and destructive for the Doctor. Both him and Catherine Tate still consider the final cut to be "aggressive" by the Doctor's usual standards. | ||
* [[Francesca Fowler]] suffered from a bad case of food poisoning during the filming of this episode, which has since been said to have helped contribute towards [[Evelina]]'s ill appearance. | *[[Francesca Fowler]] suffered from a bad case of food poisoning during the filming of this episode, which has since been said to have helped contribute towards [[Evelina]]'s ill appearance. | ||
=== Ratings === | ===Ratings === | ||
=== Filming locations === | *9.04 million viewers (UK final)<ref>[http://guide.doctorwhonews.net/info.php?detail=ratings&start=100&type=date&order= Doctor Who - consolidated ratings]</ref> | ||
==== Studio ==== | |||
* Upper Boat Studios, Treforrest | ===Filming locations=== | ||
* Cinecittà Studios, Rome | ====Studio==== | ||
*Upper Boat Studios, Treforrest | |||
*Cinecittà Studios, Rome | |||
====Location==== | |||
* Mount Vesuvius, Naples | * Mount Vesuvius, Naples | ||
* Welsh Centre for International Affairs, Cardiff | * Welsh Centre for International Affairs, Cardiff | ||
* Clearwell Caves, Gloucestershire | *Clearwell Caves, Gloucestershire | ||
* Morlais Quarry, Merthyr Tydfil | *Morlais Quarry, Merthyr Tydfil | ||
* Taffs Well Quarry, Taffs Well | *Taffs Well Quarry, Taffs Well | ||
=== Production errors === | ===Production errors=== | ||
{{Discontinuity}} | {{Discontinuity}} | ||
* Just before the Doctor finds out that everyone with the "gift" is breathing in Vesuvius, the Doctor's glasses fog up but in the next shot, they are all clear. | |||
* As the Doctor and Donna enter the TARDIS after watching the destruction of Pompeii from the hills, the front of the TARDIS is facing outward, towards the city. In the very next shot, showing a wide view of the surroundings, the TARDIS has rotated, as shown by the sign on the door now facing approximately 90° to the left. This is purely a CGI error, as the sound of the Doctor and Donna entering the TARDIS can be heard but not seen. | *Just before the Doctor finds out that everyone with the "gift" is breathing in Vesuvius, the Doctor's glasses fog up but in the next shot, they are all clear. | ||
*As the Doctor and Donna enter the TARDIS after watching the destruction of Pompeii from the hills, the front of the TARDIS is facing outward, towards the city. In the very next shot, showing a wide view of the surroundings, the TARDIS has rotated, as shown by the sign on the door now facing approximately 90° to the left. This is purely a CGI error, as the sound of the Doctor and Donna entering the TARDIS can be heard but not seen. | |||
* A major error is that once the Doctor breaks off [[Lucius Petrus Dextrus]]' right arm, he becomes wider and it is quite obvious by this that the actor's arm is strapped under his toga. | * A major error is that once the Doctor breaks off [[Lucius Petrus Dextrus]]' right arm, he becomes wider and it is quite obvious by this that the actor's arm is strapped under his toga. | ||
* The word "BIRTVS" or "BURTVS" can be seen carved into the stone towards the end after the Doctor saved the family, more specifically when Evelina and Quintus are holding hands. | *The word "BIRTVS" or "BURTVS" can be seen carved into the stone towards the end after the Doctor saved the family, more specifically when Evelina and Quintus are holding hands. | ||
== Continuity == | ==Continuity== | ||
* The Doctor tells Donna that "that fire" had nothing to do with him. His [[First Doctor|first incarnation]] inspired [[Nero]] to begin the [[Great Fire of Rome]] when he accidentally set fire to a map of the new plan for Rome while visiting [[64]] AD. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Romans (TV story)|The Romans]]'') | |||
* During the events of this story, there were two versions of the Doctor's [[Seventh Doctor|seventh incarnation]] at large in the city involved in different adventures, one with [[Melanie Bush|Mel]] (which also involved time-changing decisions), ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Fires of Vulcan (audio story)|The Fires of Vulcan]]'') and another with [[Ace]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[The Algebra of Ice (novel)|The Algebra of Ice]]'') | *The Doctor tells Donna that "that fire" had nothing to do with him. His [[First Doctor|first incarnation]] inspired [[Nero]] to begin the [[Great Fire of Rome]] when he accidentally set fire to a map of the new plan for Rome while visiting [[64]] AD. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Romans (TV story)|The Romans]]'') | ||
* The Doctor pulls the arm off one of his adversaries, just as he previously did with an [[Auton]]. ([[TV]]: ''[[Rose (TV story)|Rose]]'') | *During the events of this story, there were two versions of the Doctor's [[Seventh Doctor|seventh incarnation]] at large in the city involved in different adventures, one with [[Melanie Bush|Mel]] (which also involved time-changing decisions), ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Fires of Vulcan (audio story)|The Fires of Vulcan]]'') and another with [[Ace]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[The Algebra of Ice (novel)|The Algebra of Ice]]'') | ||
* Dextrus says that Donna has "something on her back". ([[TV]]: ''[[Turn Left (TV story)|Turn Left]]'') | *The Doctor pulls the arm off one of his adversaries, just as he previously did with an [[Auton]]. ([[TV]]: ''[[Rose (TV story)|Rose]]'') | ||
* Dextrus says to the Doctor that "she" is returning, referencing [[Rose Tyler]] who would soon reunite with him. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Stolen Earth (TV story)|The Stolen Earth]]'') | *Dextrus says that Donna has "something on her back". ([[TV]]: ''[[Turn Left (TV story)|Turn Left]]'') | ||
* The Doctor's discussion of time and not interfering hearkens back to an argument that the [[First Doctor]] had with his companion [[Barbara Wright]] in [[Mexico]] in the [[15th century]]. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Aztecs (TV story)|The Aztecs]]'') | *Dextrus says to the Doctor that "she" is returning, referencing [[Rose Tyler]] who would soon reunite with him. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Stolen Earth (TV story)|The Stolen Earth]]'') | ||
* The Doctor produces a small spyglass from his pockets, much as he did in [[TV]]: ''[[Robot (TV story)|Robot]]''. | *The Doctor's discussion of time and not interfering hearkens back to an argument that the [[First Doctor]] had with his companion [[Barbara Wright]] in [[Mexico]] in the [[15th century]]. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Aztecs (TV story)|The Aztecs]]'') | ||
* The Doctor also produces a water pistol, which would appear again (and be stolen by a [[Graske]]) in [[TV]]: ''[[Music of the Spheres (TV story)|Music of the Spheres]]''. | *The Doctor produces a small spyglass from his pockets, much as he did in [[TV]]: ''[[Robot (TV story)|Robot]]''. | ||
* The Doctor says it's volcano day, much as Jack did in [[TV]]: ''[[The Doctor Dances (TV story)|The Doctor Dances]]''. | *The Doctor also produces a water pistol, which would appear again (and be stolen by a [[Graske]]) in [[TV]]: ''[[Music of the Spheres (TV story)|Music of the Spheres]]''. | ||
*The Doctor says it's volcano day, much as Jack did in [[TV]]: ''[[The Doctor Dances (TV story)|The Doctor Dances]]''. | |||
* The destruction of Pompeii was later referenced by the Doctor when he wrestled with abandoning [[Bowie Base One]] in [[TV]]: ''[[The Waters of Mars (TV story)|The Waters of Mars]]''. | * The destruction of Pompeii was later referenced by the Doctor when he wrestled with abandoning [[Bowie Base One]] in [[TV]]: ''[[The Waters of Mars (TV story)|The Waters of Mars]]''. | ||
* [[The Doctor's TARDIS]] was previously mistaken for a work of art ([[TV]]: ''[[City of Death (TV story)|City of Death]]'') and would be again. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[The War of Art (WEB short story)|The War of Art]]'') | *[[The Doctor's TARDIS]] was previously mistaken for a work of art ([[TV]]: ''[[City of Death (TV story)|City of Death]]'') and would be again. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[The War of Art (WEB short story)|The War of Art]]'') | ||
* Donna calls the Doctor "spaceman". ([[TV]]: ''[[The Runaway Bride (TV story)|The Runaway Bride]]'') | *Donna calls the Doctor "spaceman". ([[TV]]: ''[[The Runaway Bride (TV story)|The Runaway Bride]]'') | ||
* The Doctor previously visited Rome in [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Stone Rose (novel)|The Stone Rose]]''. | *The Doctor previously visited Rome in [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Stone Rose (novel)|The Stone Rose]]''. | ||
* The Doctor would subconsciously base his [[Twelfth Doctor|twelfth incarnation]] on Lobus Caecilius' appearance. ([[TV]]: ''[[Deep Breath (TV story)|Deep Breath]]'', ''[[The Girl Who Died (TV story)|The Girl Who Died]]'') | *The Doctor would subconsciously base his [[Twelfth Doctor|twelfth incarnation]] on Lobus Caecilius' appearance. ([[TV]]: ''[[Deep Breath (TV story)|Deep Breath]]'', ''[[The Girl Who Died (TV story)|The Girl Who Died]]'') | ||
* Lucius mentions that Pyrovillia was lost, just as [[Cofelia]] said of the Adipose's breeding planet. ([[TV]]: ''[[Partners in Crime (TV story)|Partners in Crime]]'') | *Lucius mentions that Pyrovillia was lost, just as [[Cofelia]] said of the Adipose's breeding planet. ([[TV]]: ''[[Partners in Crime (TV story)|Partners in Crime]]'') | ||
** The Doctor later realises that it is one of the [[stolen planets|27 planets stolen]] by the [[Dalek]]s. It is later returned to its rightful position is space. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Stolen Earth (TV story)|The Stolen Earth]]''/''[[Journey's End (TV story)|Journey's End]]'') | ** The Doctor later realises that it is one of the [[stolen planets|27 planets stolen]] by the [[Dalek]]s. It is later returned to its rightful position is space. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Stolen Earth (TV story)|The Stolen Earth]]''/''[[Journey's End (TV story)|Journey's End]]'') | ||
== Home video releases == | ==Home video releases== | ||
[[File:Bbcdvd-s4-v1.jpg|thumb|Series 4 Volume 1 DVD Cover]] | [[File:Bbcdvd-s4-v1.jpg|thumb|Series 4 Volume 1 DVD Cover]] | ||
* This story was released in the [[Series 4 (Doctor Who)|Series 4]] DVD box set in [[November (releases)|November]] [[2008 (releases)|2008]] along with the rest of the series. | * This story was released in the [[Series 4 (Doctor Who)|Series 4]] DVD box set in [[November (releases)|November]] [[2008 (releases)|2008]] along with the rest of the series. | ||
* It was also released as Series 4 Volume 1 in a vanilla edition with ''[[Partners in Crime (TV story)|Partners in Crime]]'' and ''[[Planet of the Ood (TV story)|Planet of the Ood]]''. | * It was also released as Series 4 Volume 1 in a vanilla edition with ''[[Partners in Crime (TV story)|Partners in Crime]]'' and ''[[Planet of the Ood (TV story)|Planet of the Ood]]''. | ||
== External links == | ==External links== | ||
* [http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/episodes/S4_02 Official BBC Website - Episode Guide for '''The Fires of Pompeii'''] | |||
*[http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/episodes/S4_02 Official BBC Website - Episode Guide for '''The Fires of Pompeii'''] | |||
{{dwrefguide|who_tv34.htm|The Fires of Pompeii}} | {{dwrefguide|who_tv34.htm|The Fires of Pompeii}} | ||
* {{briefhistory|serials/2008b.html|The Fires of Pompeii}} | * {{briefhistory|serials/2008b.html|The Fires of Pompeii}} | ||
* {{locguide|firesofpompeii|The Fires of Pompeii}} | * {{locguide|firesofpompeii|The Fires of Pompeii}} | ||
== Footnotes == | ==Footnotes== | ||
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