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==STOP!==
Stop! What are you doing? I agree some pages may need a tidy up but you’re destroying many people’s hard work. All you have done is destroy and delete dozens of unanswered questions, and given it a stupid new name leaving the bear minimum, I most want to complain as I am the one who add loads to the ones that had little and now your destroying all my work, stop and undo, you don't the right. After all if people are going to add to it wanting there questions answered and they aren't stupid or obvious who said you can delete them? And I've looked over your deletions and found you have deleted many reasonable unanswered errors and reasonable answers, and before you argue why to keep answered questions, how else do you stop new comers adding the same question? Just stop, and preferably undo and leave your meddling to yourself. If people wanted them gone, they would have been got rid of by now so your reason seems bit rubbish, as is this page and your ideas, just undo you’re meddling and leave. And before you ague be prepared to know that I will fight you till you back off.
Stop! What are you doing? I agree some pages may need a tidy up but you’re destroying many people’s hard work. All you have done is destroy and delete dozens of unanswered questions, and given it a stupid new name leaving the bear minimum, I most want to complain as I am the one who add loads to the ones that had little and now your destroying all my work, stop and undo, you don't the right. After all if people are going to add to it wanting there questions answered and they aren't stupid or obvious who said you can delete them? And I've looked over your deletions and found you have deleted many reasonable unanswered errors and reasonable answers, and before you argue why to keep answered questions, how else do you stop new comers adding the same question? Just stop, and preferably undo and leave your meddling to yourself. If people wanted them gone, they would have been got rid of by now so your reason seems bit rubbish, as is this page and your ideas, just undo you’re meddling and leave. And before you ague be prepared to know that I will fight you till you back off.
:There were issues raised in the past about that section and Tangerineduel decided to do something and change the section to what it is now; '''Production Errors'''. This is so that the page is not clogged up with loads of '''Discontinuity, Plot Holes etc''' and user can then use the '''Discussion page or the Howling'' to talk about the mistakes. If worst comes to worst, a ''new section''' can be created in '''the forms''' to discuss the episodes errors? Mini-mitch 18:05, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
:There were issues raised in the past about that section and Tangerineduel decided to do something and change the section to what it is now; '''Production Errors'''. This is so that the page is not clogged up with loads of '''Discontinuity, Plot Holes etc''' and user can then use the '''Discussion page or the Howling'' to talk about the mistakes. If worst comes to worst, a ''new section''' can be created in '''the forms''' to discuss the episodes errors? Mini-mitch 18:05, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
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:::If you are a 'reasonable person' then you can accept that this change from Discontinuity section to Production Errors is what the admins have decided to do. Mini-mitch 15:52, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
:::If you are a 'reasonable person' then you can accept that this change from Discontinuity section to Production Errors is what the admins have decided to do. Mini-mitch 15:52, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
I don't see this as reasoning, I see it as failure, I spent ages making many of the Discontiuity sections and now that you are destroying them because you think there messy, and you expect me to be okay with that? I won't give up, but as I said before, to save all of us a lot of strain can we just talk about this rather than us having to keep undoing each others undos?
I don't see this as reasoning, I see it as failure, I spent ages making many of the Discontiuity sections and now that you are destroying them because you think there messy, and you expect me to be okay with that? I won't give up, but as I said before, to save all of us a lot of strain can we just talk about this rather than us having to keep undoing each others undos?


::::"It would crowd the site and would really be a waste of space"...this is what other users have been saying about the 'discontinuity and question/answer element' and what lead us to clearing it up to Production errors.  
::::"It would crowd the site and would really be a waste of space"...this is what other users have been saying about the 'discontinuity and question/answer element' and what lead us to clearing it up to Production errors.  
::::People also go to the trouble of adding unsourced rumours which are deleted and at one point in this wiki's development they were left on the pages, unsourced. However as this wiki has developed we now state that any rumours cited must have sources. As I've said it's in the nature of a wiki to change and develop. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 16:01, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
::::People also go to the trouble of adding unsourced rumours which are deleted and at one point in this wiki's development they were left on the pages, unsourced. However as this wiki has developed we now state that any rumours cited must have sources. As I've said it's in the nature of a wiki to change and develop. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 16:01, March 26, 2010 (UTC)


 
==Tidy up the section, or delete it?==
To bring back a old topic - should the Discontinuity, Plot Holes, Errors section be tidied up or just deleted in general? Some pages, such as [[The End of Time (TV story)|The End of Time]] seems to have massive of information in that section. Should the section be deleted altogether ot just have a general tidy to and leave the main points in? Mini-mitch 16:41, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
To bring back a old topic - should the Discontinuity, Plot Holes, Errors section be tidied up or just deleted in general? Some pages, such as [[The End of Time (TV story)|The End of Time]] seems to have massive of information in that section. Should the section be deleted altogether ot just have a general tidy to and leave the main points in? Mini-mitch 16:41, March 20, 2010 (UTC)


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::Nevertheless, the sensible course of action is to eliminate discontinuity sections from story pages. This would ensure the length of that section isn't greater than the length of the rest of the article combined. Remember, our goal is to provide a ''concise'' guide to the DWU — not a long-winded, often speculative one. Discontinuity notes belong only on individual topic pages in a concise, italicized note at the bottom of the article, or directly underneath the problematic point. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 18:19, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
::Nevertheless, the sensible course of action is to eliminate discontinuity sections from story pages. This would ensure the length of that section isn't greater than the length of the rest of the article combined. Remember, our goal is to provide a ''concise'' guide to the DWU — not a long-winded, often speculative one. Discontinuity notes belong only on individual topic pages in a concise, italicized note at the bottom of the article, or directly underneath the problematic point. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 18:19, March 20, 2010 (UTC)


So should we take a vote then?Mini-mitch 18:46, March 20, 2010 (UTC)<br />
So should we take a vote then?Mini-mitch 18:46, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
 
===Vote===
'''Delete the Section'''
'''Delete the Section'''
*[[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-Mitch]] 18:43, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
*[[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-Mitch]] 18:43, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
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*[[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 21:30, March 20, 2010 (UTC) (alternate vote)
*[[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 21:30, March 20, 2010 (UTC) (alternate vote)


===New pages for discontinuities?===
I am with Mini-mitch here, the discontinuity section is known to become a place of pointless so-called 'errors' (when, in fact, someone doesn't use logic or fails to notice something simple for an explanation), large, flooding discussions and arguments, picking episodes apart, and detracting attention from the main article of the story. The disconinuity section seems silly to me - we're supposed to be fans, not perfectionists. If anything, there should be special pages for disconinuity alone - and only very big discontinuity, not little things. [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 21:30, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
I am with Mini-mitch here, the discontinuity section is known to become a place of pointless so-called 'errors' (when, in fact, someone doesn't use logic or fails to notice something simple for an explanation), large, flooding discussions and arguments, picking episodes apart, and detracting attention from the main article of the story. The disconinuity section seems silly to me - we're supposed to be fans, not perfectionists. If anything, there should be special pages for disconinuity alone - and only very big discontinuity, not little things. [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 21:30, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
::Well I agree with you, DM, that we should delete the section from story pages. But I '''strongly''' disagree with this notion of creating a new page for a major error. How would we judge what a "major" error is? How major does it have to be to get its own page?
::Well I agree with you, DM, that we should delete the section from story pages. But I '''strongly''' disagree with this notion of creating a new page for a major error. How would we judge what a "major" error is? How major does it have to be to get its own page?
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