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|image           = Lords of the red planet cover.jpg
|image             = Lords of the red planet cover.jpg
|range           = The Lost Stories
|range             = The Lost Stories
|series in range = Series 4 (TLS)
|series in range   = Series 4 (TLS)
|series number in range = 4
|series number in range = 4
|number in series = 3
|number in series = 3
|series         = [[The Lost Stories]]
|series           = [[The Lost Stories]]
|number         = 4.03
|number           = 4.03
|doctor         = Second Doctor
|doctor           = Second Doctor
|companions     = [[Jamie McCrimmon|Jamie]], [[Zoe Heriot|Zoe]]
|companions       = [[Jamie McCrimmon|Jamie]], [[Zoe Heriot|Zoe]]
|enemy           = [[Zaadur]], [[Ice Warrior]]s
|enemy             = [[Zaadur]], [[Ice Warrior]]s
|setting         = [[Mars]]
|setting           = [[Mars]]
|writer         = [[Brian Hayles]], adapted by [[John Dorney]]
|writer           = John Dorney
|director       = [[Lisa Bowerman]]
|contributors      = [[Brian Hayles]], adapted by [[John Dorney]]
|music           = [[Steve Foxon]]
|director         = [[Lisa Bowerman]]
|sound           = [[Steve Foxon]]
|music             = [[Steve Foxon]]
|producer       = [[David Richardson]]
|sound             = Steve Foxon
|cover           = [[Alex Mallinson]]
|producer         = [[David Richardson]]
|publisher       = Big Finish Productions
|cover             = [[Alex Mallinson]]
|release date   = [[15 November (releases)|15 November]] [[2013 (releases)|2013]]
|publisher         = Big Finish Productions
|format         = 3 CDs<br/>Download
|release date     = 15 November 2013
|production code =  
|format           = 3 CDs<br/>Download
|isbn           = ISBN 978-1-78178-097-8
|production code   = BFPDWLS25
|prev           = The Queen of Time (audio story)
|isbn             = ISBN 978-1-78178-097-8 (physical)<br/>ISBN 978-1-78575-898-0 (digital)
|next           = The Mega (audio story)  
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|epcount = 6}}{{audio stub}}
|epcount = 6
'''''Lords of the Red Planet''''' was the third release in the [[Series 4 (TLS)|fourth series]] of ''[[The Lost Stories]] ''from [[Big Finish Productions]]. It tells the origin story of the [[Ice Warrior]]s.
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'''''{{StoryTitle}}''''' was the third story in the [[Series 4 (TLS)|fourth series]] of ''[[The Lost Stories]]'', produced by [[Big Finish Productions]]. It was adapted by [[John Dorney]], from the original script by [[Brian Hayles]], narrated by [[Frazer Hines]] and [[Wendy Padbury]] and featured the [[Second Doctor]], [[Jamie McCrimmon]] and [[Zoe Heriot]].


The story had originally been intended for TV however it was dropped and the script for ''[[The Seeds of Death (TV story)|The Seeds of Death]]'' was created in place of it. The original story had been written by [[Brian Hayles]], the creator behind the Ice Warriors, but for the audio release it was adapted by [[John Dorney]].
The story had originally been intended for TV however it was dropped and the script for ''[[The Seeds of Death (TV story)|The Seeds of Death]]'' was created in place of it. The original story had been written by [[Brian Hayles]], the creator behind the Ice Warriors, but for the audio release it was adapted by [[John Dorney]].


== Publisher's summary ==
== Publisher's summary ==
The TARDIS crew land on [[Mars]], home of the [[Ice Warrior]]s, far back in its history. The Doctor is convinced it's much too early for them to meet their frozen foes.. but the Doctor is wrong.
[[The Doctor's TARDIS|The TARDIS]] crew land on [[Mars]], home of the [[Ice Warrior]]s, far back in its history. [[Second Doctor|The Doctor]] is convinced it's much too early for them to meet their frozen foes.. but the Doctor is wrong.


Far below the surface of the planet an evil scheme is in motion. A scientist works night and day at the command of an insane despot. A despot intent on creating a terrifyingly familiar army.
Far below the surface of the planet an evil scheme is in motion. A scientist works night and day at the command of an insane despot. A despot intent on creating a terrifyingly familiar army.
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== Plot ==
== Plot ==
=== Part one ===
=== Part one ===
A
A huge creature screams in the underground city of [[Gandor]] as scientist [[Quendril]] attempts to save it but he is unsuccessful. He debates with his servant [[Risor]] about whether he should continue performing these horrible experiments for [[Zaadur]].
huge creature screams in the underground city of [[Gandor]] as scientist
[[Quendril]] attempts to save it but he is unsuccessful. He
debates with his servant [[Risor]] about whether he should continue
performing these horrible experiments for [[Zaadur]].


[[Second Doctor|The
[[Second Doctor|The Doctor]], [[Jamie McCrimmon|Jamie]] and [[Zoe Heriot|Zoe]] materialise in a strange and dusty red
Doctor]], [[Jamie McCrimmon|Jamie]] and [[Zoe Heriot|Zoe]] materialize in a strange and dusty red
environment. The Doctor deduces that they have arrived on a planet in earth’s solar system, [[Mars]] as a matter of fact. Since it is cold out, the Doctor suggests they move around for warmth. As Zoe sprints off, Jamie reminds the Doctor that Mars is home of the Ice Warriors, whom they have encountered before but the Doctor assures Jamie that they don’t exist yet as it is too early in history. They take off after Zoe. They find an [[Saurian (Lords of the Red Planet)|early life-form that looks like a lizard]] and chase after it.
environment. The Doctor deduces that they have arrived on a planet in
earth’s solar system, [[Mars]] as a matter of fact. Since it is cold
out, the Doctor suggests they move around for warmth. As Zoe sprints
off, Jamie reminds the Doctor that Mars is home of the Ice Warriors,
whom they have encountered before but the Doctor assures Jamie that
they don’t exist yet as it is too early in history. They take off
after Zoe.
They find an [[Saurian (Lords of the Red Planet)|early life-form that looks like a
lizard]] and chase after it.


Meanwhile
Meanwhile Zaadur meets with Quendril in his lab where he protests about continuing the experiments due to the mounting death tolls. She blackmails him to continue anyway, reminding him that the princess Veltreena’s life is on the line. She reiterates that his experiments are for the “good of all” while Risor slips away.
Zaadur meets with Quendril in his lab where he protests about
continuing the experiments due to the mounting death tolls. She
blackmails him to continue anyway, reminding him that the princess
Veltreena’s life is on the line. She reiterates that his
experiments are for the “good of all” while Risor slips away.


Jamie
Jamie and the Doctor catch up with Zoe, spotting that the creature is actually a baby and part of a family. They suddenly hear a bugle-like <nowiki> </nowiki>noise. The Doctor fears that these creatures may be being hunted and agrees with Zoe that they should go back to the TARDIS lest they accidentally get caught in the hunt. They begin to run back the way they came.
and the Doctor catch up with Zoe, spotting that the creature is
actually a baby and part of a family. They suddenly hear a bugle-like
<nowiki> </nowiki>noise. The Doctor fears that these creatures may be being hunted
and agrees with Zoe that they should go back to the TARDIS lest they
accidentally get caught in the hunt. They begin to run back the way they came.


Zaadur demands Qunedril’s decision whether he will continue his
Zaadur demands Qunedril’s decision whether he will continue his work or not as chief scientist because if he chooses not to, she will cut off his access to “[[life drink]]”. Quendril relents and agrees to continue with Zaadur’s scheme. She demands that he speed up the research. He offers to show some of the progress he has made. He reveals [[Aslor]], one of his research subjects, is still in its primitive stage, to which she goads him into finishing it.
work or not as chief scientist because if he chooses not to, she will
cut off his access to “[[life drink]]”. Quendril relents and agrees
to continue with Zaadur’s scheme. She demands that he speed up the
research. He offers to show some of the progress he has made. He
reveals [[Aslor]], one of his research subjects, is still in its primitive stage, to which she goads him into
finishing it.


Risor stumbles through the crowded streets
Risor stumbles through the crowded streets of Gandor attempting to find someone.
of Gandor attempting to find someone.


[[Veltreena]] sits in a room, being tended to by
[[Veltreena]] sits in a room, being tended to by servants. She observes a screen displaying the Doctor, Zoe and Jamie
servants. She observes a screen displaying the Doctor, Zoe and Jamie
on the surface. She is intrigued by these estrange creatures, having never before seen anything like them. Risor arrives and warns her that her life is in danger due to Zaadur. Veltreena laughs, assuring him that she is in control of the city and Zaadur is nothing but a joke. Risor tries to explain that Zaadur is in control now but Veltreena laughs again. She reassures Risor that everything is fine and persuades him to stay with her and watch the strangers on the planet’s surface as they are quite entertaining to her.
on the surface. She is intrigued by these estrange creatures, having
never before seen anything like them. Risor arrives and warns her
that her life is in danger due to Zaadur. Veltreena laughs, assuring
him that she is in control of the city and Zaadur is nothing but a
joke. Risor tries to explain that Zaadur is in control now but
Veltreena laughs again. She reassures Risor that everything is fine
and persuades him to stay with her and watch the strangers on the
planet’s surface as they are quite entertaining to her.


The Doctor, Jamie and Zoe continue to
The Doctor, Jamie and Zoe continue to try and escape the hunt. The hunters, however, get closer. The trio then fall into a large pit, after which Jamie realises is a trap. The
try and escape the hunt. The hunters, however, get closer. The trio
then fall into a large pit, after which Jamie realizes is a trap. The
trap is revealed to be a metal box that closes them in and drags them
trap is revealed to be a metal box that closes them in and drags them
down below the surface.
down below the surface.


Veltreena tries to find them, but Risor
Veltreena tries to find them, but Risor
comments they have fallen into a Saurian pit. Risor realizes that
comments they have fallen into a Saurian pit. Risor realises that
something may have happened to the strangers and attempts to leave,
something may have happened to the strangers and attempts to leave,
but Veltreena wants him to stay. He convinces her otherwise and
but Veltreena wants him to stay. He convinces her otherwise and
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[[Quendril|bipedal reptilian]] hurrying towards them suddenly calls out for the
[[Quendril|bipedal reptilian]] hurrying towards them suddenly calls out for the
green creature to stop, explaining that they are not [[Saurian (Lords of the Red Planet)|Saurians]]. The
green creature to stop, explaining that they are not [[Saurian (Lords of the Red Planet)|Saurians]]. The
creature drops its weapon and stands off to the side. He apologizes
creature drops its weapon and stands off to the side. He apologises
for Zoe being hurt to an unamused Doctor. As she comes back to
for Zoe being hurt to an unamused Doctor. As she comes back to
consciousness, she blurts out “[[Ice Warrior]]s” to the Doctor but he
consciousness, she blurts out “[[Ice Warrior]]s” to the Doctor but he
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introduces himself to the female, named Zaadur, but before being able
introduces himself to the female, named Zaadur, but before being able
to say anything else Risor, the fourth creature, remarks that there
to say anything else Risor, the fourth creature, remarks that there
was one more person traveling with the Doctor. The Doctor explains
was one more person travelling with the Doctor. The Doctor explains
it is Jamie, and Zaadur commands Risor to go and find him, escorted
it is Jamie, and Zaadur commands Risor to go and find him, escorted
by one of the Ice Warriors.
by one of the Ice Warriors.
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the laser close to his face when suddenly he is released and sees the
the laser close to his face when suddenly he is released and sees the
princess holding a lock of his hair. She explains she wanted it
princess holding a lock of his hair. She explains she wanted it
because it was pretty and half-heartedly apologizes for not telling
because it was pretty and half-heartedly apologises for not telling
him earlier. She invites him to sit with her and eat. She reveals
him earlier. She invites him to sit with her and eat. She reveals
that she was created by her father thanks to science.
that she was created by her father thanks to science.
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Warriors but remarks about how advanced Quendril’s equipment is.
Warriors but remarks about how advanced Quendril’s equipment is.
Quendril asks whether they are native but reveals he knew they were
Quendril asks whether they are native but reveals he knew they were
not. He explains that Gandor used to be made up of many civilizations
not. He explains that Gandor used to be made up of many civilisations
but only his species and the Ice Warriors are left, further
but only his species and the Ice Warriors are left, further
revealing that they are immortal and before the Doctor can find out
revealing that they are immortal and before the Doctor can find out
anymore Qunedril nervously and abruptly changes the subject. He shows
anymore Qunedril nervously and abruptly changes the subject. He shows
them his latest creation, Aslor. Zoe is shocked and the Doctor
them his latest creation, Aslor. Zoe is shocked and the Doctor
recognizes that it is an [[Ice Lord]].
recognises that it is an [[Ice Lord]].


Veltreena explains
Veltreena explains
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Aslor
Aslor
flings the Doctor out of the way and escapes trough one of the doors.
flings the Doctor out of the way and escapes trough one of the doors.
Zoe apologizes, saying she couldn’t stand watching Aslor in agony
Zoe apologises, saying she couldn’t stand watching Aslor in agony
all the while Quendril informs Zaadur by activating an alarm.
all the while Quendril informs Zaadur by activating an alarm.


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reports that they have successfully captured it. They tell Zoe to
reports that they have successfully captured it. They tell Zoe to
return back to her quarters so she may receive life drink.
return back to her quarters so she may receive life drink.
 


Veltreena’s servant reaches into something looking like
Veltreena’s servant reaches into something looking like
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Veltreena
Veltreena
and her servants drink and seemingly in a delightful trance they sink to the floor.
and her servants drink and seemingly in a delightful trance they sink to the floor.
Jamie pokes Veltreena, and she airily apologizes for not being a good host.
Jamie pokes Veltreena, and she airily apologises for not being a good host.
The Doctor, more curious, asks her what exactly life drink is. She
The Doctor, more curious, asks her what exactly life drink is. She
explains that it helps them to live forever. It is revealed that
explains that it helps them to live forever. It is revealed that
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her army. He also points out that despite her cruel demeanor which
her army. He also points out that despite her cruel demeanor which
the people are not aware of, they follow her willingly. Quendril
the people are not aware of, they follow her willingly. Quendril
admits that it is the same for him... and apologizes to the Doctor
admits that it is the same for him... and apologises to the Doctor
before activating the thought extractor.
before activating the thought extractor.


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negotiate with the warrior. Risor on the ground manages to throw one
negotiate with the warrior. Risor on the ground manages to throw one
of the warriors into the supports and causing
of the warriors into the supports and causing
the warriors on the top level to fall through the destabilized floor. The Doctor manages to hang on to a
the warriors on the top level to fall through the destabilised floor. The Doctor manages to hang on to a
support strut as the warriors come crashing down. He slides down it
support strut as the warriors come crashing down. He slides down it
like a fireman’s pole. Once on the ground, the group reunites and
like a fireman’s pole. Once on the ground, the group reunites and
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Doctor and company arrive at the rocket. Jamie and the Doctor go and
Doctor and company arrive at the rocket. Jamie and the Doctor go and
find the eggs. They find that the eggs are kept at sub-zero
find the eggs. They find that the eggs are kept at sub-zero
temperatures and they cannot handle them or even touch them without sustaining injury but they realize Aslor can.
temperatures and they cannot handle them or even touch them without sustaining injury but they realise Aslor can.


Zoe
Zoe
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Doctor and Jamie have disabled two explosives and continue to search
Doctor and Jamie have disabled two explosives and continue to search
for more. The Doctor is suddenly intrigued about the coordination of
for more. The Doctor is suddenly intrigued about the coordination of
the bombs, only to realize that Zaadur plans to blow up not just the
the bombs, only to realise that Zaadur plans to blow up not just the
mines but the entire city of Gandor!
mines but the entire city of Gandor!


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The
The
Doctor and Zoe are in the process of synthesizing the substitute when
Doctor and Zoe are in the process of synthesising the substitute when
Zaadur contacts him over the communication channels. She demands for him
Zaadur contacts him over the communication channels. She demands for him
to explain what he has done with her eggs. He tells her that Aslor
to explain what he has done with her eggs. He tells her that Aslor
had hidden them in the mines and that if they weren’t destroyed in
had hidden them in the mines and that if they weren’t destroyed in
the excess exhaust fire from the rocket launch, they will surely have
the excess exhaust fire from the rocket launch, they will surely have
been finished by the destabilization and subsequent collapse of the mine. Zaadur calls the
been finished by the destabilisation and subsequent collapse of the mine. Zaadur calls the
Doctor a monster for destroying life but the Doctor points out that
Doctor a monster for destroying life but the Doctor points out that
the eggs were inert and inanimate objects. She accuses him of
the eggs were inert and inanimate objects. She accuses him of
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Zaadur
Zaadur
realizes the Doctor is going to make a substitute for the life drink
realises the Doctor is going to make a substitute for the life drink
and orders the atmospheric bomb to be prepared, intent on finishing
and orders the atmospheric bomb to be prepared, intent on finishing
off the Doctor once and for all.
off the Doctor once and for all.
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collapse as well. Zoe points out that the temperature is getting warmer
collapse as well. Zoe points out that the temperature is getting warmer
everywhere, including in the tunnels, which is killing the warriors.
everywhere, including in the tunnels, which is killing the warriors.
Sadly, the Doctor realizes only one other person knows this weakness.
Sadly, the Doctor realises only one other person knows this weakness.


Aslor
Aslor
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Quendril soon comes back to consciousness. The Doctor explains he has managed
Quendril soon comes back to consciousness. The Doctor explains he has managed
to synthesize the life drink substitute and is pumping it in its
to synthesise the life drink substitute and is pumping it in its
gaseous form through the tunnels, slowly reviving the comatosed Gandorans. He then tells Quendril to be careful about what
gaseous form through the tunnels, slowly reviving the comatosed Gandorans. He then tells Quendril to be careful about what
experiments he conducts as not every species is lucky enough to have
experiments he conducts as not every species is lucky enough to have
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* [[Aslor]]/[[Risor]]/[[Ice Warrior|The Ice Warriors]] - [[Nicholas Briggs]]
* [[Aslor]]/[[Risor]]/[[Ice Warrior|The Ice Warriors]] - [[Nicholas Briggs]]


== References ==
== Worldbuilding ==
* The thought extractor is a device that can extract the thoughts of a being and display them visually on a screen. This is similar to the machine used in the story ''[[The Mind Robber (TV story)|The Mind Robber]]'' in which the person hooked up to the computer in the [[Land of Fiction]] has characters extracted from their imagination and turned tangible and real.
* When looking through his pockets for the sample of [[life drink]] mineral he had taken from the mines, the Doctor also takes out a [[yoyo]], the [[Sonic screwdriver|sonic scrwdriver]] and a [[Jelly baby|bag of jelly babies]].


== Notes ==
== Notes ==
* This story was recorded on [[30 January (production)|30]], [[31 January (production)|31 January]] & [[1 February (production)|1 February]] [[2013 (production)|2013]] at [[The Moat Studios]].
* This story was recorded on [[30 January (production)|30]], [[31 January (production)|31 January]] & [[1 February (production)|1 February]] [[2013 (production)|2013]] at [[the Moat Studios]].<ref>https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-lords-of-the-red-planet-822</ref>
* [[Michael Troughton]], son of [[Second Doctor]] actor [[Patrick Troughton]] and the titular Doctor featured in this story, voices the [[Gandoran]] scientist [[Quendril]]. Many members of the Troughton family have been featured in [[Doctor Who]] media, including Michael's brother and Patrick's eldest son [[David Troughton]].
* [[Michael Troughton]], son of [[Second Doctor]] actor [[Patrick Troughton]] and the titular Doctor featured in this story, voices the [[Gandoran]] scientist [[Quendril]]. Many members of the Troughton family have been featured in [[Doctor Who]] media, including Michael's brother and Patrick's eldest son [[David Troughton]], and Michael would later take over his father's role for Big Finish.
* "Royal Command Delta" is an Ice Warrior command that means find and kill.
* "Royal Command Delta" is an Ice Warrior command that means find and kill.
* The thought extractor is a device that can extract the thoughts of a being and display them visually on a screen. This is similar to the machine used in the story ''[[The Mind Robber (TV story)|The Mind Robber]]'' in which the person hooked up to the computer in the [[Land of Fiction]] has characters extracted from their imagination and turned tangible and real.


== Continuity ==
== Continuity ==
* Jamie, Zoe and the Doctor recognize the Ice Warriors from their previous meetings with them. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Ice Warriors (TV story)|The Ice Warriors]], [[The Seeds of Death (TV story)|The Seeds of Death]]'')
* Jamie, Zoe and the Doctor recognise the Ice Warriors from their previous meetings with them. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Ice Warriors (TV story)|The Ice Warriors]], [[The Seeds of Death (TV story)|The Seeds of Death]]'')
* Zaardur's orders to slaughter the survivors in the city echoes the Cyber-Leader's instructions following the freighter's planned impact in [[TV]]: ''[[Earthshock (TV story)|Earthshock]]''.


* The Doctor mentions that he prefers not to partake in alien rituals, in this case the one for the [[life drink]] provided for the people of [[Gandor]]. The Doctor would later relax his stance on this, as in [[The Rings of Akhaten (TV story)|''The Rings of Akhaten'']] he takes [[Clara]] to participate in the [[Festival of Offerings]], although the Doctor mentions that he used to come with his granddaughter [[Susan]]. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Rings of Akhaten (TV story)|The Rings of Akhaten]]'')
* The Doctor mentions that he prefers not to partake in alien rituals, in this case the one for the [[life drink]] provided for the people of [[Gandor]]. The Doctor would later relax his stance on this, as in ''[[The Rings of Akhaten (TV story)|The Rings of Akhaten]]'' he takes [[Clara]] to participate in the [[Festival of Offerings]], although the Doctor mentions that he used to come with his granddaughter [[Susan]]. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Rings of Akhaten (TV story)|The Rings of Akhaten]]'')
** However, it is possible that the Doctor was avoiding partaking in this particular ritual because he was concerned for his, Jamie’s and Zoe’s safety.
** However, it is possible that the Doctor was avoiding partaking in this particular ritual because he was concerned for his, Jamie’s and Zoe’s safety.
* When looking through his pockets for the sample of [[life drink]] mineral he had taken from the mines, the Doctor also takes out a [[yoyo]], the [[Sonic screwdriver|sonic scrwdriver]] and a [[Jelly baby|bag of jelly babies]].
* Following ''[[Ascendance (comic story)|Ascendance]]'', this is the first performed story to feature female Ice Warriors, or a variation thereupon (i.e. their ancestors), Zaadur and Veltreena. Only in the 2017 TV story ''[[Empress of Mars (TV story)|Empress of Mars]]'' finally appear on-screen in the series. (The 2023 audio story ''[[Ice Heist! (audio story)|Ice Heist!]]'' would later follow.)
* This is the first known official story to feature female Ice Warriors, or a variation thereupon (i.e. their ancestors), Zaadur and Veltreena. It is only in the TV story [[Empress of Mars (TV story)|''The Empress of Mars'']] would a female Ice Warrior appear on-screen in the televised show.
* While the exact time this story takes place in is unknown, it is hinted that it is the early time just after the formation of earth's [[Solar System|solar system]]. Depending on when that is, it could possibly create contradictions. The earliest known invasion of the Ice Warriors on earth after this time occurs in the late 20th century ([[TV]]: ''[[Cold War (TV story)|Cold War]]'') and late 21st Century, ([[TV]]: ''[[The Seeds of Death (TV story)|The Seeds of Death]]'') although it is claimed the Ice Warriors crashed on the planet and had been frozen for thousands of years ([[TV]]: ''[[Cold War (TV story)|Cold War]]'', ''[[The Ice Warriors (TV story)|The Ice Warriors]]''). Yet when Jamie asks the Doctor about the Ice Warriors at the present time of their journey into Gandor, the Doctor claims that the time is still far too early for the Ice Warriors to exist. In the TV story'' [[Empress of Mars (TV story)|Empress of Mars]]'', the Ice Warriors and [[Iraxxa|Queen Iraxa]] are claimed to have been in hibernation for nearly 5000 years and said story takes place in the 19th century. This suggests that either there was a separate breed of Ice Warriors lurking elsewhere on Mars unbeknownst to the Gandorans and Quendril or that the history of the Ice Warriors was abruptly changed between the time of the [[Second Doctor]]'s and the [[Twelfth Doctor|Twelfth Doctor's]] encounter with them due to the non-linear, ever-changing nature of time as the Doctor often explains. However, the former is certainly possible because as the Doctor and Zoe remark at the end of the story, it seems the Saurians are always destined to evolve into the Ice Warriors, whether the process is sped up by forced evolution as in this story or natural evolution is allowed to take its course over the next several centuries or eons. It is also possible that some of the Ice Warriors survived the explosion on the rocket and somehow ended up on earth during the [[Ice Age]], which explains why they were found frozen in the first place.
* While the exact time this story takes place in is unknown, it is hinted that it is the early time just after the formation of earth's [[Solar System|solar system]]. Depending on when that is, it could possibly create contradictions. The earliest known invasion of the Ice Warriors on earth after this time occurs in the late 20th century ([[TV]]: ''[[Cold War (TV story)|Cold War]]'') and late 21st Century ([[TV]]: ''[[The Seeds of Death (TV story)|The Seeds of Death]]''), although it is claimed the Ice Warriors crashed on the planet and had been frozen for thousands of years ([[TV]]: ''[[Cold War (TV story)|Cold War]]'', [[The Ice Warriors (TV story)|''The Ice Warriors'']]). Yet when Jamie asks the Doctor about the Ice Warriors at the present time of their journey into Gandor, the Doctor claims that the time is still far too early for the Ice Warriors to exist. In the TV story'' [[Empress of Mars (TV story)|Empress of Mars]]'', the Ice Warriors and [[Iraxxa|Queen Iraxa]] are claimed to have been in hibernation for nearly 5000 years and said story takes place in the 19th century. This suggests that either there was a separate breed of Ice Warriors lurking elsewhere on Mars unbeknownst to the Gandorans and Quendril or that the history of the Ice Warriors was abruptly changed between the time of the [[Second Doctor]]'s and the [[Twelfth Doctor|Twelfth Doctor's]] encounter with them due to the non-linear, ever-changing nature of time as the Doctor often explains. However, the former is certainly possible because as the Doctor and Zoe remark at the end of the story, it seems the Saurians are always destined to evolve into the Ice Warriors, whether the process is sped up by forced evolution as in this story or natural evolution is allowed to take its course over the next several centuries or eons. It is also possible that some of the Ice Warriors survived the explosion on the rocket and somehow ended up on earth during the [[Ice Age]], which explains why they were found frozen in the first place.
 
== External links ==
== External links ==
{{bigfinish|releases/v/lords-of-the-red-planet-822|Lords of the Red Planet}}
{{bigfinish|releases/v/lords-of-the-red-planet-822|Lords of the Red Planet}}
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[[Category:Audio stories that use Delia Derbyshire's 2nd theme]]
[[Category:Audio stories that use Delia Derbyshire's 2nd theme]]
[[Category:Six part audio stories]]
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