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Although the [[Tenth Doctor]] insisted to [[The Beast (The Impossible Planet)|the Beast]] that there could not possibly have ever been such a thing, many accounts documented the existence of a "'''pre-universe'''", some form of reality before the [[Big Bang|inception]] of [[the Doctor's universe]]. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Impossible Planet (TV story)|The Impossible Planet]]''/''[[The Satan Pit (TV story)|The Satan Pit]]'') | Although the [[Tenth Doctor]] insisted to [[The Beast (The Impossible Planet)|the Beast]] that there could not possibly have ever been such a thing, many accounts documented the existence of a "'''pre-universe'''", some form of reality before the [[Big Bang|inception]] of [[the Doctor's universe]]. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Impossible Planet (TV story)|The Impossible Planet]]''/''[[The Satan Pit (TV story)|The Satan Pit]]'') | ||
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The belief this drove at was that the [[Great Old One]]s, powerful beings who often seemed unbound by the laws of physics and whom the Doctor faced many times, were actually surviving members of the race which had been equivalent to the Time Lords in this other universe. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Millennial Rites (novel)|Millennial Rites]]'') | The belief this drove at was that the [[Great Old One]]s, powerful beings who often seemed unbound by the laws of physics and whom the Doctor faced many times, were actually surviving members of the race which had been equivalent to the Time Lords in this other universe. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Millennial Rites (novel)|Millennial Rites]]'') | ||
However, through his encounter with the [[Carnival Queen]], the [[Seventh Doctor]] realised that most of what the moder, Time Lords thought they knew about "the universe before the universe" was not actually a wholly distinct universe, but the state of reality in the [[Dark Times]], before [[Rassilon]] and the other [[Founders of Gallifrey]] managed to [[ | However, through his encounter with the [[Carnival Queen]], the [[Seventh Doctor]] realised that most of what the moder, Time Lords thought they knew about "the universe before the universe" was not actually a wholly distinct universe, but the state of reality in the [[Dark Times]], before [[Rassilon]] and the other [[Founders of Gallifrey]] managed to [[Anchoring of the thread|bind the structure of history]] and impose [[Rationality]] upon the universe. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'') | ||
Subsequently, when facing the Beast, the [[Tenth Doctor]] once more insisted that no life could have existed before [[N-Space|the universe]] came into existence. The Beast mocked this belief for being baseless and emotionally-driven, more akin to [[religion]] than scientific certainty. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Satan Pit (TV story)|The Satan Pit]]'') | Subsequently, when facing the Beast, the [[Tenth Doctor]] once more insisted that no life could have existed before [[N-Space|the universe]] came into existence. The Beast mocked this belief for being baseless and emotionally-driven, more akin to [[religion]] than scientific certainty. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Satan Pit (TV story)|The Satan Pit]]'') | ||
