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:::: Secondarily, there's also the issue of ''The Time Monster'' not actually being the Hermit's ''first appearance'', hence my suggestion that he be treated as a primary topic – but you both know that my attitude is that the rules should obey the needs of the wiki, not the other way around, and I'm more than happy to bend [[T:DAB]] in this instance. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 13:20, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | :::: Secondarily, there's also the issue of ''The Time Monster'' not actually being the Hermit's ''first appearance'', hence my suggestion that he be treated as a primary topic – but you both know that my attitude is that the rules should obey the needs of the wiki, not the other way around, and I'm more than happy to bend [[T:DAB]] in this instance. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 13:20, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
::::: For the record, I agree with Nate here: [[the Hermit]] does make a good bunch of sense as a primary topic, even if we have to mention lower case is also used in the lead (see: [[the Other]]), whereas [[hermit (The Time Monster)]] is potentially misleading. We generally try to avoid dabbing by first mention.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 16:58, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | ::::: For the record, I agree with Nate here: [[the Hermit]] does make a good bunch of sense as a primary topic, even if we have to mention lower case is also used in the lead (see: [[the Other]]), whereas [[hermit (The Time Monster)]] is potentially misleading. We generally try to avoid dabbing by first mention.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 16:58, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
What a delightful conversation! Love this energy. Personally, I think its nice to have individual pages for the different incarnations of K'anpo, but also that we should keep the combined K'anpo page, but also that the most neutral page for this web of a Time Lord as a whole would be [[The Hermit]]. This new Ansillon lore emphasizes shifting names and identities, and I think that can offer a solution -- i would suggest making pages for "Ku'an Impe" and "Uba Danth" as distinct identities (even if they're not ''necessarily'' incarnations), and treating the "K'anpo" as another sort of identity which was a form of [[The Hermit]] (with his incarnations being treated as K'anpo I and K'anpo II, as Scrooge argues above). Ansillon could function similarly, with there being a page for the identity and a page for the incarnation himself who appears in the story. | |||
One more distinct incarnation of the Hermit who I would suggest to get his own page is Paul Cornell's one-eyed hooded Hermit who appears in ''[[Timewyrm: Revelation (novel)]]'' and ''[[The Three Paths (short story)]]''. Even though that Hermit is indicated to be the body which mentored the Doctor and did the "daisiest daisy" thing from ''The Time Monster'', Cornell brings a distinct interpretation and physical appearance to the character which isn't seen in other interpretations of the Doctor's childhood and therefore I think should get its own page. Come to think of it, that version of the hermit is rather similar to ''The Taking of Planet 5''{{'}}s... [[User:TheChampionOfTime|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT">CoT</span>]] [[User talk:TheChampionOfTime|<span title="Talk to me">?</span> ]] 19:20, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | |||
