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::: I like the idea of keeping a K'anpo page, and making ones for the other identities namedropped in ''[[Blood of the Time Lords (audio story)|Blood of the Time Lords]]'', using the precedent of [[Harold Saxon]] and its ilk — but we can't just make "[[The Hermit]]" the Time Lord page that runs with the K'anpo and Ansillon lore, because that leaves us short of a [[Time Lord messenger (Genesis of the Daleks)]]-style page for "just the basic hermit-on-the-mountain, ''sans'' later backstories" on which we could document Azmael, and other potential non-K'anpo-aligned elaborations on the concept. Or else we'd be back to having to put ''that'' on [[Hermit (The Time Monster)]], ''separately'' from the "The Hermit" page being about the Ansillon/K'anpo/etc. Time Lord of many faces? <span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 19:42, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | ::: I like the idea of keeping a K'anpo page, and making ones for the other identities namedropped in ''[[Blood of the Time Lords (audio story)|Blood of the Time Lords]]'', using the precedent of [[Harold Saxon]] and its ilk — but we can't just make "[[The Hermit]]" the Time Lord page that runs with the K'anpo and Ansillon lore, because that leaves us short of a [[Time Lord messenger (Genesis of the Daleks)]]-style page for "just the basic hermit-on-the-mountain, ''sans'' later backstories" on which we could document Azmael, and other potential non-K'anpo-aligned elaborations on the concept. Or else we'd be back to having to put ''that'' on [[Hermit (The Time Monster)]], ''separately'' from the "The Hermit" page being about the Ansillon/K'anpo/etc. Time Lord of many faces? <span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 19:42, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
:::: Another option, if we're to insist on splitting Old and New K'anpo, is to cover [[K'anpo Rimpoche 2 (Planet of the Spiders)|New K'anpo]] on [[Cho Je]]. While in the transcript of the aired episode New K'anpo appears to reject the name Cho-Je ("No, Tommy. I am K'Anpo."), in the omniscient truthful narration of the novelisation, he retains the name, in this line and in the remainder of the book: | |||
{{quote|The glow faded and now Cho-Je sat in the chair, beaming at them. 'I was not dying, you see, I was merely regenerating.' | |||
Tommy shook his head in amazement. 'Cho-Je -' | |||
Cho-Je shook his head and held up a warning finger. 'No, no. I was Cho-Je, I am now K'anpo. Or, if you prefer, I am both!'|''[[Doctor Who and the Planet of the Spiders (novelisation)|Doctor Who and the Planet of the Spiders]]''}} | |||
:::: Now, recognising that Cho-Je ''is'' K'anpo II may be unsettling for those of us who like to canonweld him with [[the Watcher (Logopolis)|the Watcher]], but the inconvenient truth is that the novelisation is very clear: | |||
{{quote|Sarah shook her head, baffled. A thought struck her. 'What about Cho-Je? Is he a Time Lord, too?' | |||
K'anpo smiled. 'Cho-Je is merely a projection. You might say he was my other self.'}} | |||
:::: So we don't need speculative titles at all! Old K'anpo is [[K'anpo]], and his second incarnation is [[Cho-Je]], which will cover his pre- and post-immanentization appearances. (Note also that Cho Je is actually spelled Cho-Je, which makes for ''another'' rename template I'm adding to a page as the result of this discussion.) – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 20:56, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | |||
