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:::: Badly worded, yes. But nevertheless he meant that we don’t consider them each an individually numbered serial. The dab term TV story covers every single one of the TV stories, multi-part of not. One part of a multi-parter is still a TV story and therefore should have the dab TV story. Clearly you misinterpreted it as meaning that we should seperate each story. We should not. They are still a single story. And '''that''' is how they have been considered since forever. And yes, that accounts for ''Flux'' too. [[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:30, 10 January 2023 (UTC) | :::: Badly worded, yes. But nevertheless he meant that we don’t consider them each an individually numbered serial. The dab term TV story covers every single one of the TV stories, multi-part of not. One part of a multi-parter is still a TV story and therefore should have the dab TV story. Clearly you misinterpreted it as meaning that we should seperate each story. We should not. They are still a single story. And '''that''' is how they have been considered since forever. And yes, that accounts for ''Flux'' too. [[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:30, 10 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
::::: I don't think it's for us to say that Scrooge meant something that he did not say. [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Jack "BtR" Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:32, 10 January 2023 (UTC) | ::::: I don't think it's for us to say that Scrooge meant something that he did not say. [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Jack "BtR" Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:32, 10 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
: I meant precisely what I said: that we consider [[The Mysterious Planet (TV story)]] a story and have done from the start. We just… objectively do. It has a story page (individual episodes of serials e.g. ''[[The Feast of Steven]]'' do not), and its dab term says "story". It's also fairly ''intuitively'' a story in the [[T:VS]] sense — things definitely happen in it. We wouldn't throw it out for "not being a story" if ''The Mysterious Planet'' had somehow come into existence without the other ''Trial'' installments attached. ''The Mysterious Planet'' is "a story" — unless the proposal is to merge all the installments into one giant page (bad idea, IMO!), I don't see that changing. | |||
: Whether we can, from this, derive that ''Trial'' as a whole is ''not'' a story… I don't know. It seems to me that for a weird case like this, we ''could'' say that we have "a story made up of stories". But despite the quotes helpfully located in the above discussion, I don't think the Wiki's current policy on ''this'' point is in fact clear/consistent. To wit… well, the page is called [[Season 23]], not [[The Trial of a Time Lord (TV story)|''The Trial of a Time Lord'' (TV story)]]. That's pretty evidence that, ''de facto'', we cover it as a season rather than a story! But as I said, this does conflict wit a few of the statements located above, so I'm game to treat that aspect of the matter as not yet settled, and to use this talk page to nail it down more clearly. | |||
: As regards story numbering, my personal opinion is that we should dispense with it entirely as a fundamentally confused, inherently-contradictory endeavour, and, by and large, a thuddingly useless one at that. I… recognise that this is perhaps a radical point of view, but I hope the fact that we're still arguing abour ''Trial'' numbering forty years on will give some people a sense of why I feel that way. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 14:02, 10 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
