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: But to be completely honest I think I prefer a bullet list for “List of appearances”. The argument “too many bullet lists” is utter bullshit. —[[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:08, 11 January 2023 (UTC) | : But to be completely honest I think I prefer a bullet list for “List of appearances”. The argument “too many bullet lists” is utter bullshit. —[[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:08, 11 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
::That's not the argument; that's just the precedent. The main motivating factor is that locking users into a single unchangeable sort order gets in the way of them finding interesting information like "the first story this character appeared in" – not to mention that it arguably violates [[T:NPOV]]. For your list of columns, at minimum, medium and series are required by virtue of the current layout. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 14:16, 11 January 2023 (UTC) | ::That's not the argument; that's just the precedent. The main motivating factor is that locking users into a single unchangeable sort order gets in the way of them finding interesting information like "the first story this character appeared in" – not to mention that it arguably violates [[T:NPOV]]. For your list of columns, at minimum, medium and series are required by virtue of the current layout. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 14:16, 11 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
::: I like Option 1 the best actually. I’m not so fond of Option 2. [[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:48, 11 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
Per the feedback here, I've slimmed down [[/Martha Jones - list of appearances|the sample options]] by removing the "Publisher" column: in the end, what matters regarding a comic is the magazine it's published in, not whether that magazine is owned by [[Panini UK]] or [[BBC Magazines]]. Where relevant, for instance in distinguishing between [[BBC Torchwood audio stories|BBC]] and [[Big Finish Torchwood series|Big Finish]] Torchwood audios, I've simply mentioned the information into the "Series" column. | Per the feedback here, I've slimmed down [[/Martha Jones - list of appearances|the sample options]] by removing the "Publisher" column: in the end, what matters regarding a comic is the magazine it's published in, not whether that magazine is owned by [[Panini UK]] or [[BBC Magazines]]. Where relevant, for instance in distinguishing between [[BBC Torchwood audio stories|BBC]] and [[Big Finish Torchwood series|Big Finish]] Torchwood audios, I've simply mentioned the information into the "Series" column. | ||
Regarding the remaining columns, I think the case for keeping "Release date" is obvious per the above, and "Medium" and "Series" are required simply to replicate the current list of appearances format. I also like "Author", which is useful in many cases – for instance, when a character or a specific character arc was sculpted by a specific author – but admittedly it's the next most marginal case … besides "Validity", that is, which like [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] and [[User:Epsilon the Eternal|Epsilon]] I continue to believe would be misleading to audiences regarding what "validity" means, just as [[User:Schreibenheimer|Schreibenheimer]] demonstrated above. In short, I hope the removal of "Publisher" will be sufficient to address these concerns. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) | Regarding the remaining columns, I think the case for keeping "Release date" is obvious per the above, and "Medium" and "Series" are required simply to replicate the current list of appearances format. I also like "Author", which is useful in many cases – for instance, when a character or a specific character arc was sculpted by a specific author – but admittedly it's the next most marginal case … besides "Validity", that is, which like [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] and [[User:Epsilon the Eternal|Epsilon]] I continue to believe would be misleading to audiences regarding what "validity" means, just as [[User:Schreibenheimer|Schreibenheimer]] demonstrated above. In short, I hope the removal of "Publisher" will be sufficient to address these concerns. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) | ||
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