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: Unfortunately, I currently lack the energy to create a more in-depth proposal right now, and I also don't want to in case my idea is too different from others. But my suggestion is that because the idea of subpages affects the flow of a page, we should preserve this flow by looking at each section of a page as answering a question. The summary tells you a basic, general overview, but if you want details, you should be actually inclined to visit the subpage. Another suggestion I have is to potentially base biography section summaries off the section headers of the actual biography. What do you all think of this lump of ideas? [[User:Chubby Potato|Chubby Potato]] [[User talk:Chubby Potato|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:48, 12 January 2023 (UTC) | : Unfortunately, I currently lack the energy to create a more in-depth proposal right now, and I also don't want to in case my idea is too different from others. But my suggestion is that because the idea of subpages affects the flow of a page, we should preserve this flow by looking at each section of a page as answering a question. The summary tells you a basic, general overview, but if you want details, you should be actually inclined to visit the subpage. Another suggestion I have is to potentially base biography section summaries off the section headers of the actual biography. What do you all think of this lump of ideas? [[User:Chubby Potato|Chubby Potato]] [[User talk:Chubby Potato|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:48, 12 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
::[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]], you wrote, "if there's a 'perfectly good' limited summary on the main page, people are quite liable to never check out the full-length /Biography version." Indeed, both proposals for the "Writing a summary" section already say, "Like a lead paragraph, a well-written summary should 'lead' its readers to want to learn more, whether that means clicking through to the subpage or actually experiencing the stories in question." I don't see what else needs to be said; limiting our summaries beyond this line would begin to compromise our higher-order priorities as a wiki, as [[User:NoNotTheMemes|NoNotTheMemes]] insightfully pointed out above. | |||
::[[User:Chubby Potato|Chubby Potato]], I agree with everything you've said here, down to moving names from leads to a "Names" section – I suggested the same thing above, citing [[Aliases of the Doctor]], without any idea that such a thing already existed on [[N-Space#Names|N-Space]]. And I'm slightly embarrassed to admit that I'd forgotten [[T:LEADS]] existed! Your formulation of "a section as the answer to the question posed by its header" is elegantly phrased and, as a principle, describes our current practices very aptly – in fact, its explicit adoption would lead to so few implications outside of precedent (by my reckoning, none!) that I wouldn't be surprised if it could be officially adopted without a forum thread, similarly to the process which gave us [[T:MERGE]]. Codifying that would go a long way towards clearing up the dispute in this thread, and it's a compelling next step, even if surely it can't be accomplished within the 3 week allotment. Until we can sort it out, I can accept Scrooge's suggestion of "no bio summaries" in the meantime. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 23:05, 12 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
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