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:::#''[[The Three Paths (short story)|The Three Paths]]'' mentions "Mount Plutarch" as a valid name for [[Mount Lung]], and ''[[Celestial Intervention (audio story)|Celestial Intervention]]'' mentions the [[Lune Forest]]: both locations and names first used in ''DCtT''. | :::#''[[The Three Paths (short story)|The Three Paths]]'' mentions "Mount Plutarch" as a valid name for [[Mount Lung]], and ''[[Celestial Intervention (audio story)|Celestial Intervention]]'' mentions the [[Lune Forest]]: both locations and names first used in ''DCtT''. | ||
:::#''The Same Face'' doesn't even have to enter into it: the only thing it told us was that the Minister existed in the "main" Doctor's universe. But that was already established by his cameo in ''The Gallifrey Chronicles'' and, to a lesser extent, ''The Tomorrow Windows''! | :::#''The Same Face'' doesn't even have to enter into it: the only thing it told us was that the Minister existed in the "main" Doctor's universe. But that was already established by his cameo in ''The Gallifrey Chronicles'' and, to a lesser extent, ''The Tomorrow Windows''! | ||
:::On top of all this, yes, as you mentioned, ''[[Trading Futures (novel)|Trading Futures]]'' establishes that the Canisian invasion – an invasion depicted in ''DCtT'', by a race established by and exclusively featured in the same story – happened to the Earth of the Eighth Doctor's timeline. This and the mention of the Doctor's defeat of Tannis particularly are abundantly clear and specific, particularly in comparison with the vague allusion in ''[[Zagreus (audio story)|Zagreus]]'' to "a universe where the Time Lords have terrible mind powers", which could be anything frankly. It's very clear which of these perspectives deserve more weight in our coverage. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 23:23, 31 January 2023 (UTC) | :::#On top of all this, yes, as you mentioned, ''[[Trading Futures (novel)|Trading Futures]]'' establishes that the Canisian invasion – an invasion depicted in ''DCtT'', by a race established by and exclusively featured in the same story – happened to the Earth of the Eighth Doctor's timeline. This and the mention of the Doctor's defeat of Tannis particularly are abundantly clear and specific, particularly in comparison with the vague allusion in ''[[Zagreus (audio story)|Zagreus]]'' to "a universe where the Time Lords have terrible mind powers", which could be anything frankly. | ||
:::It's very clear which of these perspectives deserve more weight in our coverage. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 23:23, 31 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
:: Objection, y'honour! All that these points, and indeed ''Same Face'' if we acknowledge the Minister connection, demonstrate is that the events of ''DCtT'' are a ''possible'' timeline of the DWU up until the Eighth Doctor's era, as it were; that as of Doctors 1-6, it is a pregnant possibility that ''DCtT'' will happen, and that the ''setting'' of ''DCtT'' is physically the same as the DWU. At best they preclude ''DCtT'' being some completely different, coincidentally-similar parallel universe floating somewhere out there (''contra'' the ''Zagreus'' take), but I don't see that they establish anything about whether the ''DCtT''!Seven is aborted/alternative/divergent compared to the conventional Eight. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 23:46, 31 January 2023 (UTC) | :: Objection, y'honour! All that these points, and indeed ''Same Face'' if we acknowledge the Minister connection, demonstrate is that the events of ''DCtT'' are a ''possible'' timeline of the DWU up until the Eighth Doctor's era, as it were; that as of Doctors 1-6, it is a pregnant possibility that ''DCtT'' will happen, and that the ''setting'' of ''DCtT'' is physically the same as the DWU. At best they preclude ''DCtT'' being some completely different, coincidentally-similar parallel universe floating somewhere out there (''contra'' the ''Zagreus'' take), but I don't see that they establish anything about whether the ''DCtT''!Seven is aborted/alternative/divergent compared to the conventional Eight. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 23:46, 31 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
:::Au contraire! I anticipated that point and explicitly addressed it in points 1 and 5 😛 – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 00:12, 1 February 2023 (UTC) | |||
