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The [[Series 3 (Torchwood)|third series]] of the spin-off series ''[[Torchwood (TV series)|Torchwood]]'' synchronised with its year of broadcast, 2009, when in ''[[Children of Earth: Day One (TV story)|Children of Earth: Day One]]'', a [[Operative (Children of Earth)|government operative]] mentions [[Clement McDonald]]'s name was last active 44 years ago, i.e. when Clement disappeared in [[1965]], until [[Torchwood Three|Torchwood]] found him living under an alias. As well as this, in ''[[Children of Earth: Day Four (TV story)|Children of Earth: Day Four]]'', [[Rhys Williams]] mentions that [[Jack Harkness]]' deal with [[the 456]] at that time worked for 44 years.
The [[Series 3 (Torchwood)|third series]] of the spin-off series ''[[Torchwood (TV series)|Torchwood]]'' synchronised with its year of broadcast, 2009, when in ''[[Children of Earth: Day One (TV story)|Children of Earth: Day One]]'', a [[Operative (Children of Earth)|government operative]] mentions [[Clement McDonald]]'s name was last active 44 years ago, i.e. when Clement disappeared in [[1965]], until [[Torchwood Three|Torchwood]] found him living under an alias. As well as this, in ''[[Children of Earth: Day Four (TV story)|Children of Earth: Day Four]]'', [[Rhys Williams]] mentions that [[Jack Harkness]]' deal with [[the 456]] at that time worked for 44 years.
The other of Davies' spin-offs, ''[[The Sarah Jane Adventures]]'', makes several references to then-current ''Doctor Who'' stories, but rarely gives an on-screen date beyond ''[[Whatever Happened to Sarah Jane? (TV story)|Whatever Happened to Sarah Jane?]]'' (2007) being approximately 40 years after 1964. It thus does not make it clear when it was written to be a year ahead and when it was not, particularly in the first two series. In 2009, the [[Series 3 (SJA)|third series]] story ''[[The Mad Woman in the Attic (TV story)|The Mad Woman in the Attic]]'' has a 15-year-old character, [[Samuel Lloyd]] born in June 1994, heavily implying a non year ahead setting. Eventually, in 2010, the [[Series 4 (SJA)|fourth series]] more explicitly synchronised with its year of broadcast, when dialogue and set design in ''[[The Nightmare Man (TV story)|The Nightmare Man]]'' and ''[[Lost in Time (TV story)|Lost in Time]]'' place [[Sarah Jane Smith]]'s time as 2010.


== Contradictory clues ==
== Contradictory clues ==
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** According to [[Sarah Jane Smith]], [[K9 Mark IV]] has been in a [[black hole]] for "a [[year]] and a half", setting this story at least that long since ''School Reunion''.
** According to [[Sarah Jane Smith]], [[K9 Mark IV]] has been in a [[black hole]] for "a [[year]] and a half", setting this story at least that long since ''School Reunion''.
** The [[tax disc]] on [[Sarah Jane's car]] expires in [[July]] [[2007]].
** The [[tax disc]] on [[Sarah Jane's car]] expires in [[July]] [[2007]].
** Sarah Jane adopts [[Luke Smith]] who, as she will recall in ''[[Sky (TV story)|Sky]]'' (2011), "was born a thirteen year old boy".
** [[Sarah Jane Smith]] adopts [[Luke Smith]] who, as she will recall in ''[[Sky (TV story)|Sky]]'' (2011), "was born a thirteen year old boy".
* Following ''Invasion of the Bane'' is ''[[Revenge of the Slitheen (TV story)|Revenge of the Slitheen]]'' (2007), which takes place at the start of a new year at [[Park Vale Comprehensive School]] for Luke, Maria and [[Clyde Langer]]. Luke and Clyde are in form [[10B]].
* Following ''Invasion of the Bane'' is ''[[Revenge of the Slitheen (TV story)|Revenge of the Slitheen]]'' (2007), which takes place at the start of a new year at [[Park Vale Comprehensive School]] for Luke, Maria and [[Clyde Langer]]. Luke and Clyde are in form [[10B]].
** Luke is now officially "fourteen" years old.
** Luke is now officially "fourteen" years old.
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*By ''[[Mona Lisa's Revenge (TV story)|Mona Lisa's Revenge]]'' (2009), Luke and Clyde are in form [[11T]].
*By ''[[Mona Lisa's Revenge (TV story)|Mona Lisa's Revenge]]'' (2009), Luke and Clyde are in form [[11T]].
*By ''[[The Gift (TV story)|The Gift]]'' (2009), Luke is [[age]]d "fifteen", placing it within a year of the ''Doctor Who'' story ''Journey's End'' (with conflicting instory dating as above), where Sarah Jane describes Luke as "only fourteen".
*By ''[[The Gift (TV story)|The Gift]]'' (2009), Luke is [[age]]d "fifteen", placing it within a year of the ''Doctor Who'' story ''Journey's End'' (with conflicting instory dating as above), where Sarah Jane describes Luke as "only fourteen".
*''[[The Nightmare Man (TV story)|The Nightmare Man]]'' (2010) is primarily set on the week of [[6 September|6]]-[[10 September]] [[2010]]. It establishes that, shortly after entering [[sixth form]], Luke Smith decides to take his [[A-levels]] in [[June]] as per Mr Chandra's suggestion, which enables him to get into the [[University of Oxford]] a year early, ie in the 2010-11 academic year. This suggests that Clyde and Rani are now in year 13, and Luke and Clyde were in form 10B before the autumn of 2008.
*''[[The Nightmare Man (TV story)|The Nightmare Man]]'' (2010) is primarily set on the week of [[6 September|6]]-[[10 September]] [[2010]], with Luke beginning his packing for the [[University of Oxford]] on the 6th, and leaving on the 10th. It establishes that, shortly after entering [[sixth form]], Luke Smith decides to take his [[A-levels]] in [[June]] as per Mr Chandra's suggestion, which enables him to get into Oxford a year early, ie in the 2010-11 academic year. This suggests that Clyde and Rani are now in year 13, and Luke and Clyde were in form 10B before the autumn of 2008.
*In ''[[Death of the Doctor (TV story)|Death of the Doctor]]'' (2010), Sarah Jane tells [[Jo Jones]] that she reunited with [[the Doctor]] "about four years ago", alluding to the events of ''School Reunion'', which according to that episode and contemporary stories was set in 2007, suggesting a 2011 setting of ''Death of the Doctor''.
*In ''[[Death of the Doctor (TV story)|Death of the Doctor]]'' (2010), Sarah Jane tells [[Jo Jones]] that she reunited with [[the Doctor]] "about four years ago", alluding to the events of ''School Reunion'', which according to that episode and contemporary stories was set in 2007, either suggesting a 2011 setting of ''Death of the Doctor'' or retroactively putting ''School Reunion'' in 2006.
* A [[newspaper]] dates ''[[Lost in Time (TV story)|Lost in Time]]'' (2010) as taking place on [[23 November]] 2010.
* In ''[[Lost in Time (TV story)|Lost in Time]]'' (2010), Sarah Jane shows [[Emily Morris]] a clipping of a [[newspaper]] from [[23 November]] 2010 to prove she is from Emily's future.


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