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:In essence, what I'm trying to say is that - I have doubts that now is the right time to be finding a specialised dab for all those stories when we have to yet to fix distinct lines on how things should be handled. (for instance, I remain of the mind that things like ''Mind of the Hodiac'' that didn't get a formal script commission should be referred to as pitched or proposed.) I would much prefer that we sort out the matter of how many distinctive terms we are going to need to be accurate before we approach how we would best dab this. [[User:JDPManjoume|JDPManjoume]] [[User talk:JDPManjoume|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:32, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
:In essence, what I'm trying to say is that - I have doubts that now is the right time to be finding a specialised dab for all those stories when we have to yet to fix distinct lines on how things should be handled. (for instance, I remain of the mind that things like ''Mind of the Hodiac'' that didn't get a formal script commission should be referred to as pitched or proposed.) I would much prefer that we sort out the matter of how many distinctive terms we are going to need to be accurate before we approach how we would best dab this. [[User:JDPManjoume|JDPManjoume]] [[User talk:JDPManjoume|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:32, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
::I simply disagree that the secondary conversation about terminology is a blocker for the main part of the proposal. Even if that part of the thread is left unresolved to continue in a later thread, in the meantime there'd be nothing incorrect about continuing current practice and precedent by using "unproduced" for ''The Dark Dimension'', ''Absent Friends'', and ''Valentine's Day'' alike. [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/produce#Verb As Wiktionary defines,] "produce" means "to make (a thing) available; to present to an audience or to the public." A synonym listed by Google Dictionary is "provide". Nor is this definition strictly colloquial: in all industries I've been able to check – [https://www.nyfa.edu/student-resources/7-stages-film-production/ including in media!] – the final stage of production is always understood as release, whether that's phrased as "distribution", "dispatching", or "launch". "Unproduced" does not mean a story did not begin the first stages of production, as you seem to suggest; rather, "unproduced" means that it did not ''complete'' them: in other words, "not produced". ''Absent Friends'', however far it made it through the process, was not ultimately produced for our enjoyment. Therefore it is an unproduced audio story.
::If this use of the word strikes some as strange, that's something we can continue to discuss in this thread. However, should we fail to reach a conclusion on terminology, that's ''not'' a reason to not implement the clear consensus on disambiguating our dab terms.
::All that said, I hope we ''can'' come to a conclusion in this thread regarding terminology. You seem to be suggesting four terms, "proposed", "unproduced", "unreleased", and something else for ''The Dark Dimension''. I worry that this may be too much proliferation – having to remember precisely which stage each story ended in is rather more demanding on editors than just "did it come out or not?" – but in principle there's nothing wrong with extra precision. What would you suggest we use for ''The Dark Dimension'', if you think the other words are inappropriate? – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 16:27, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
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