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: I think it's best left where it is given the factors mentioned in the page's lead. If we were trying to be accurate to the 1960s, we'd have ''An Unearthly Child'' at ''100,000 BC'', after all. [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:24, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
: I think it's best left where it is given the factors mentioned in the page's lead. If we were trying to be accurate to the 1960s, we'd have ''An Unearthly Child'' at ''100,000 BC'', after all. [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:24, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


: I agree with the rename. Comparable reference sources like [[TCH 7|TCH]] use the full title, and we also use full story titles for other serials which it might be convenient to abbreviate (for instance, [[Doctor Who and the Silurians (TV story)]]). I see no reason why the full name, [[The Massacre of St. Bartholomew's Eve (TV story)]], wouldn't take priority here. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 21:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
:: I agree with the rename. Comparable reference sources like [[TCH 7|TCH]] use the full title, and we also use full story titles for other serials which it might be convenient to abbreviate (for instance, [[Doctor Who and the Silurians (TV story)]]). I see no reason why the full name, [[The Massacre of St. Bartholomew's Eve (TV story)]], wouldn't take priority here. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 21:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


:: Jack, to address your point: according to the great early story title analysis [https://doctorwho.org.nz/archive/tsv54/byanyothername.html "By Any Other Name"], the contest is between ''The Massacre of St Bartholomew'' and ''The Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve'', the former being an abbreviation of the latter – "''The Massacre''" doesn't even enter into it. It's the wiki's policy (as explained by [[User:SOTO]] at [[Talk:Main Range]]) that "We've always (always always) gone with original titles". I don't think this should be an exception. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 21:45, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
::: Jack, to address your point: according to the great early story title analysis [https://doctorwho.org.nz/archive/tsv54/byanyothername.html "By Any Other Name"], the contest is between ''The Massacre of St Bartholomew'' and ''The Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve'', the former being an abbreviation of the latter – "''The Massacre''" doesn't even enter into it. It's the wiki's policy (as explained by [[User:SOTO]] at [[Talk:Main Range]]) that "We've always (always always) gone with original titles". I don't think this should be an exception. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 21:45, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


::: I understand that, but Czech cited [[T:SERIALS]] when they moved the page from ''The Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve'' to ''The Massacre'', which states that "the name given in the BBC's episode guide is preferred". [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:10, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
:::: I understand that, but Czech cited [[T:SERIALS]] when they moved the page from ''The Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve'' to ''The Massacre'', which states that "the name given in the BBC's episode guide is preferred". [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:10, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 
:::::: If it were up to me, we WOULD list [[An Unearthly Child (TV story)]] as 10,000 BC. And I have the feeling that we may someday soon. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]][[User Talk:OttselSpy25|🤙☎️]] 22:36, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
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