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*The map of the US shown on van Statten's monitor is missing the upper peninsula of Michigan. | *The map of the US shown on van Statten's monitor is missing the upper peninsula of Michigan. | ||
::This is 2012, perhaps in the future the upper peninsula of Michigan has been destroyed, eroded, etc. | ::This is 2012, perhaps in the future the upper peninsula of Michigan has been destroyed, eroded, etc. | ||
*The Dalek can find no trace of his race on the Internet. Has no one noticed the events of [[DW]]: ''[[Daleks in Manhattan]]'' / ''[[Evolution of the Daleks]]'', ''[[Remembrance of the Daleks]]'', ''[[Army of Ghosts]]'' /''[[Doomsday]]'' or ''[[The Stolen Earth]]'' / ''[[Journey's End]]''? | *The Dalek can find no trace of his race on the Internet. Has no one noticed the events of [[DW]]: ''[[Daleks in Manhattan]]'' / ''[[Evolution of the Daleks]]'', ''[[Remembrance of the Daleks]]'', ''[[Army of Ghosts]]'' /''[[Doomsday]]'' or ''[[The Stolen Earth]]'' / ''[[Journey's End]]''? | ||
::The Dalek is more likely looking for ''present'' information regarding Daleks on earth, in which case he is likely the only one in 2012 itself. In addition, dialogue within various [[Torchwood]] episodes, as well as Remembrance of the Daleks suggests that information about certain events was repressed from public knowledge. | ::The Dalek is more likely looking for ''present'' information regarding Daleks on earth, in which case he is likely the only one in 2012 itself. In addition, dialogue within various [[Torchwood]] episodes, as well as Remembrance of the Daleks suggests that information about certain events was repressed from public knowledge. | ||
*How can van Statten (who seems to own the President) not know what a Dalek is, even though they stole and attacked the Earth 3 years earlier in ''The Stolen Earth'' and ''Journey's End''? | *How can van Statten (who seems to own the President) not know what a Dalek is, even though they stole and attacked the Earth 3 years earlier in ''The Stolen Earth'' and ''Journey's End''? | ||
::Again, History may have been changed. Also, there is as yet no indication that any Dalek "remains" survived the Medusa Cascade incident for study. And the episode establishes van Statten as a megalomaniac - he may have simply made up the name Metaltron because he liked it better than Dalek; he says he'd rather find out the Metaltron's real name, but he could have been testing the Doctor. Note he doesn't make a big deal of it once the Dalek's name is revealed. In addition, later stories (but earlier events) establish that some Daleks have names ([[Dalek Caan]], for instance); who is to say van Statten wasn't looking for this information? '''' ''''''' Amy Pond in DW:Victory of the Daleks does not know of the Daleks' existence which leads one to believe the memory may have been wiped from the minds of all humans. | ::Again, History may have been changed. Also, there is as yet no indication that any Dalek "remains" survived the Medusa Cascade incident for study. And the episode establishes van Statten as a megalomaniac - he may have simply made up the name Metaltron because he liked it better than Dalek; he says he'd rather find out the Metaltron's real name, but he could have been testing the Doctor. Note he doesn't make a big deal of it once the Dalek's name is revealed. In addition, later stories (but earlier events) establish that some Daleks have names ([[Dalek Caan]], for instance); who is to say van Statten wasn't looking for this information? '''' ''''''' Amy Pond in DW:Victory of the Daleks does not know of the Daleks' existence which leads one to believe the memory may have been wiped from the minds of all humans.'' | ||
*The Dalek begs the Doctor for pity. It was established in [[DW]]: ''[[Genesis of the Daleks]]'' and other stories that the Daleks cannot feel pity, having no concept of it. | *The Dalek begs the Doctor for pity. It was established in [[DW]]: ''[[Genesis of the Daleks]]'' and other stories that the Daleks cannot feel pity, having no concept of it. | ||
::In this episode, however, the Dalek is knowledgeable about emotions to manipulate them without actually having any itself, hence why it was able to trick Rose into touching it. Plus a major point of the episode is how the Dalek takes on human characteristics after Rose touches it. | ::In this episode, however, the Dalek is knowledgeable about emotions to manipulate them without actually having any itself, hence why it was able to trick Rose into touching it. Plus a major point of the episode is how the Dalek takes on human characteristics after Rose touches it. | ||
*Rose states that in 2012 she would be 26. yet she has to be 19 in 2005 to be 26. she should actually be 25 in 2012. | *Rose states that in 2012 she would be 26. yet she has to be 19 in 2005 to be 26. she should actually be 25 in 2012. | ||
::Her birthday has not necessarily passed in 2005. In [[Aliens of London]], it says she disappeared in March. Her birthday is more likely to be after March than before. Also, the Doctor does not specify a date, so it could be an assumption. Rose may not be that good at maths - she said in [[DW]]: ''[[Rose]]'' that one of the only things she was good at was gymnastics, stating, "I got the bronze". | ::Her birthday has not necessarily passed in 2005. In [[Aliens of London]], it says she disappeared in March. Her birthday is more likely to be after March than before. Also, the Doctor does not specify a date, so it could be an assumption. Rose may not be that good at maths - she said in [[DW]]: ''[[Rose]]'' that one of the only things she was good at was gymnastics, stating, "I got the bronze". | ||
*If the Daleks can hover around the city and even space with ease ([[DW]]: [[Doomsday]]/[[DW]]: [[The Stolen Earth]]/[[DW]]: [[The Parting of the Ways]]), why is this one slowly getting around hovering? Since it also wants to get past the bulk head as fast as possible. | *If the Daleks can hover around the city and even space with ease ([[DW]]: [[Doomsday]]/[[DW]]: [[The Stolen Earth]]/[[DW]]: [[The Parting of the Ways]]), why is this one slowly getting around hovering? Since it also wants to get past the bulk head as fast as possible. | ||
::It's possible that this particular Dalek was of an older model, or that it was not 100% repaired when touched by Rose. | ::It's possible that this particular Dalek was of an older model, or that it was not 100% repaired when touched by Rose. Also, this Dalek hadn't hovered, or even moved in over 40 years, so it would likely been slower than others. | ||
