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:(Sure, if Memes agrees to the above, I'll hold off with my draft of [[Third Doctor's regeneration]].) – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 13:34, 17 March 2023 (UTC) | :(Sure, if Memes agrees to the above, I'll hold off with my draft of [[Third Doctor's regeneration]].) – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 13:34, 17 March 2023 (UTC) | ||
: As to the points raised by Nate, the existence of [[Thirteenth Doctor's forced regeneration]] is fundamentally no different from the existence of [[Master-Doctor]]. They both cover the exact same subject matter as another page, but arguably in an incomplete way. The discussion of "metaphysics" really has very little to do with the fact that it's ultimately just ''not helpful to readers''. There is zero information on this page that is not covered on [[Spy Master]] --and the removal of any of that information would make [[Spy Master]] an incomplete and (frankly) worse article. Similarly, a page like [[Third Doctor's regeneration]] (or to give further example, [[Fourth Doctor's regeneration]] or [[Tenth Doctor's regeneration]]) would be unnecessary at best. The Third Doctor's regeneration is already covered in sufficient detail on [[Third Doctor]] and ''[[Planet of the Spiders (TV story)|Planet of the Spiders]]''. Having pages for regenerations as events requires enough information to justify separating them from their coverage on their (1) story page and (2) character page. I do think [[Romana I's regeneration]] is more justified, given the conflicting accounts of those circumstances and the presence of three actors that aren't Lalla Ward. What is worse about | : As to the points raised by Nate, the existence of [[Thirteenth Doctor's forced regeneration]] is fundamentally no different from the existence of [[Master-Doctor]]. They both cover the exact same subject matter as another page, but arguably in an incomplete way. The discussion of "metaphysics" really has very little to do with the fact that it's ultimately just ''not helpful to readers''. There is zero information on this page that is not covered on [[Spy Master]] --and the removal of any of that information would make [[Spy Master]] an incomplete and (frankly) worse article. <s>Similarly, a page like [[Third Doctor's regeneration]] (or to give further example, [[Fourth Doctor's regeneration]] or [[Tenth Doctor's regeneration]]) would be unnecessary at best. The Third Doctor's regeneration is already covered in sufficient detail on [[Third Doctor]] and ''[[Planet of the Spiders (TV story)|Planet of the Spiders]]''.</s> Having pages for regenerations as events requires enough information to justify separating them from their coverage on their (1) story page and (2) character page. I do think [[Romana I's regeneration]] is more justified, given the conflicting accounts of those circumstances and the presence of three actors that aren't Lalla Ward. The [[Third Doctor's regeneration]] is slightly more questionable to me, but I understand it's creation given the in-universe retcon in ''Interference''. While I personally believe that is sufficiently covered already, I see the merit in having it covered on an individual page. What is worse about this ''specific'' instance, to me, is the fact that this isn't even the only outgrowth from our peculiar coverage of the [[Spy Master]] in ''[[The Power of the Doctor (TV story)|The Power of the Doctor]]''. Not only are these events covered in detail on [[Spy Master]] and ''[[The Power of the Doctor (TV story)|The Power of the Doctor]]'', but they are also covered on [[The Master's Dalek Plan]] and [[Thirteenth Doctor's forced regeneration]]. Notably, [[The Master's Dalek Plan]] has a "to be added" for the section dedicated to ''The Plan'' --presumably because it's hard to rephrase the contents of [[Spy Master#Becoming the Doctor]] in a third way without sounding obtuse. Even if you take issue with [[T:MERGE]]'s codification of 'continuity-of-consciousness', there's just nothing to gain by having '''four articles''' covering the exact same material in the same level of detail. Kicking the can down the road just feels unnecessary. [[User:NoNotTheMemes|NoNotTheMemes]] [[User talk:NoNotTheMemes|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:55, 20 March 2023 (UTC) |
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