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* Any of the Collection trailers... Which are mostly already counted as valid due to some loophole.
* Any of the Collection trailers... Which are mostly already counted as valid due to some loophole.
* [[Luckily for me, I have a time machine (TV story)]] - This title seems bunk, but as this is invalid currently just for being "promotional" I'd say it should be valid.
* [[Luckily for me, I have a time machine (TV story)]] - This title seems bunk, but as this is invalid currently just for being "promotional" I'd say it should be valid.
* [[Streets Doctor Who Advertisement (TV story)|Streets Doctor Who Advertisement]]
* [[UNIT Recruiting Film (TV story)|UNIT Recruiting Film]] - I've not been able to figure out why this is invalid. But I presume it's because it was a marketing stunt to promote the re-broadcast of ''[[The Green Death (TV story)|The Green Death]]''.
* [[UNIT Recruiting Film (TV story)|UNIT Recruiting Film]] - I've not been able to figure out why this is invalid. But I presume it's because it was a marketing stunt to promote the re-broadcast of ''[[The Green Death (TV story)|The Green Death]]''.
* The "interruption" idents. These are a little ''less'' clear than the 2009 idents, which had its own story. In this case, the story is "the Doctor interrupts the ident." It's still fiction, but you can't read much more into it than that.
* The "interruption" idents. These are a little ''less'' clear than the 2009 idents, which had its own story. In this case, the story is "the Doctor interrupts the ident." It's still fiction, but you can't read much more into it than that.
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** [[It's All Been Leading... (TV story)|It's All Been Leading...]]
** [[It's All Been Leading... (TV story)|It's All Been Leading...]]
** [[The Moment Is Here (TV story)|The Moment Is Here]]
** [[The Moment Is Here (TV story)|The Moment Is Here]]
** [[Twelfth Doctor Ident Interruptions]]
** [[Countdown to Series 8 (BBC idents)|Countdown to Series 8]]
** [[Countdown to Series 8 (BBC idents)|Countdown to Series 8]]
* [[Season 17 (trailer)]] - This one's obscure, and the page name is terrible. But this is clearly a "Prequel" or "Prelude" before those were cool.
* [[A Time For Heroes (TV story)|A Time For Heroes]]


==== Webcasts ====
==== Webcasts ====
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* [[Famine Appeal]] - After studying it, if Colin never breaks character, I'd say this should be valid. But I've never seen this one.
* [[Famine Appeal]] - After studying it, if Colin never breaks character, I'd say this should be valid. But I've never seen this one.
* [[Friend from the Future (TV story)|Friend from the Future]] - I can say with certainty that this should be valid, as [[Steven Moffat]] intended. However, because it was invalidated originally for more than one reason, and because it is contentious, this will need its own debate.
* [[Friend from the Future (TV story)|Friend from the Future]] - I can say with certainty that this should be valid, as [[Steven Moffat]] intended. However, because it was invalidated originally for more than one reason, and because it is contentious, this will need its own debate.
* ''[[The Future Is At Your Fingertips (TV story)|The Future Is At Your Fingertips]]'' - This ALMOST doesn't pass Rule 3. These were commercials made in New Zealand which the company decided to never use. They never broadcast on TV... BUT they did premiere at a film festival. If they pass "Rule 4" is really something one could debate.
* [[Meet the Thirteenth Doctor (TV story)|Meet the Thirteenth Doctor]] - This one is odd, because I don't think it qualifies for Rule 4. Now, if a future story were to give context to what's going on here, I think this would qualify for ''Rule 4 By Proxy''.
* [[Meet the Thirteenth Doctor (TV story)|Meet the Thirteenth Doctor]] - This one is odd, because I don't think it qualifies for Rule 4. Now, if a future story were to give context to what's going on here, I think this would qualify for ''Rule 4 By Proxy''.
* [[Doctor Who: 50 Years (trailer)]] - Another great example here where there's no real proof that this was intended to be set inside the ''DWU''. But you could also argue that this trailer simply depicts a [[Multi-Doctor Event]] that ''Day'' doesn't show. It's certainly more of a promotional short than a trailer, and certainly something that would qualify for ''Rule 4 by Proxy'' if some other valid fiction referenced it. But as it stands, I think it deserves to be in the middle here.
* [[Doctor Who: 50 Years (trailer)]] - Another great example here where there's no real proof that this was intended to be set inside the ''DWU''. But you could also argue that this trailer simply depicts a [[Multi-Doctor Event]] that ''Day'' doesn't show. It's certainly more of a promotional short than a trailer, and certainly something that would qualify for ''Rule 4 by Proxy'' if some other valid fiction referenced it. But as it stands, I think it deserves to be in the middle here.
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* [[Christmas Gift Guide: LEGO set]] - This is lost media now, but I recall at the time thinking it shouldn't be valid. Same for the two other Christmas Gift Guides.
* [[Christmas Gift Guide: LEGO set]] - This is lost media now, but I recall at the time thinking it shouldn't be valid. Same for the two other Christmas Gift Guides.
* ''[[The Appliance of Science (home video)|The Appliance of Science]]'' - offensiveness and historical significance put aside, I have never seen evidence that this passes Rule 2. It certainly seems to not pass Rule 3.
* ''[[The Appliance of Science (home video)|The Appliance of Science]]'' - offensiveness and historical significance put aside, I have never seen evidence that this passes Rule 2. It certainly seems to not pass Rule 3.
* ''[[The Future Is At Your Fingertips (TV story)|The Future Is At Your Fingertips]]'' - In contrast, this seems to be licensed! So it passes Rule 2. However, the commercials were ''canceled''. They never aired on TV, instead being shown at conventions and eventually being bootlegged online. So they do not pass Rule 3, being paramount to if ''Shada'' was still locked in the BBC vaults to this day.
* [[Walls' Sky Ray lollies advertisement]] - I've long considered this one, and I think it's suffice to say that this a trailer for the story included in the packaging: ''[[Dr Who's Space Adventure Book]]''. It's really a commercial with the aesthetics of a fictional story, not a fictional story that happens to sell something. Also, I don't think we have precedent to remove the in-universe bits from the real-world bits.
* [[Walls' Sky Ray lollies advertisement]] - I've long considered this one, and I think it's suffice to say that this a trailer for the story included in the packaging: ''[[Dr Who's Space Adventure Book]]''. It's really a commercial with the aesthetics of a fictional story, not a fictional story that happens to sell something. Also, I don't think we have precedent to remove the in-universe bits from the real-world bits.
* [[Denys Fisher Toys Advert]] - Same applies here, and for all the old [[Character Options]] commercials we don't have pages on
* [[Denys Fisher Toys Advert]] - Same applies here, and for all the old [[Character Options]] commercials we don't have pages on
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