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: If memory serves, the etymologies are actually not really related, except in a very tangential way. "Straight" for heterosexual actually started as a term meaning a formerly-actively-gay person who attempted to go back to a heterosexual lifestyle anyway — ''going straight'', in exactly the same image as a criminal "going straight" (i.e. "going back to the straight-and-narrow", etc.). "Sraight-laced", meanwhile, is a corruption of "''strait''-laced", i.e. "tightly-laced", alluding to a corset or bodice. Some vague notion of "straight = proper, lawful" influenced by the same "straight and narrow" image as the heterosexual synonym is probably behind the common misspelling, of course. But to cut a long story short, I definitely think the terms are fundamentally different enough to warrant different pages, in a way which isn't the case for "queer-as-in-derogatorily-LGBTQ" vs. "queer-as-in-positively-LGBTQ". [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 12:54, 19 March 2023 (UTC) | : If memory serves, the etymologies are actually not really related, except in a very tangential way. "Straight" for heterosexual actually started as a term meaning a formerly-actively-gay person who attempted to go back to a heterosexual lifestyle anyway — ''going straight'', in exactly the same image as a criminal "going straight" (i.e. "going back to the straight-and-narrow", etc.). "Sraight-laced", meanwhile, is a corruption of "''strait''-laced", i.e. "tightly-laced", alluding to a corset or bodice. Some vague notion of "straight = proper, lawful" influenced by the same "straight and narrow" image as the heterosexual synonym is probably behind the common misspelling, of course. But to cut a long story short, I definitely think the terms are fundamentally different enough to warrant different pages, in a way which isn't the case for "queer-as-in-derogatorily-LGBTQ" vs. "queer-as-in-positively-LGBTQ". [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 12:54, 19 March 2023 (UTC) | ||
::So we're about halfway done with our time on this one. Does anyone have thoughts on the issues we've still got some disagreement on? I believe these are: | |||
::*Splitting Queer. | |||
::*Removing straight from the derogatory terms category or splitting the page. | |||
::*"Transphobia" and how best to handle transphobic slurs if the specific term hasn't been used in the DWU. | |||
::*Uncle Tom and whether it's best served on its own page or on [[Racism]]. | |||
::I think there's broad agreement on everything else, if I'm reading the thread right. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:06, 25 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
