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::: The fact that this has the Doctor means it's set in some DWU. The DWU? Probably not. A DWU? Yes. A universe where the Doctor is a character of sorts. Yes. These events probably don't happen to the Fourth Doctor nor are they intended to. But they do happen to a Fourth Doctor that is a vision in a different world. A different continuity. A different DWU. People might see this a small and meaningless difference, but it isn't. Please let this thread be a catalyst that changes rule 4 to "a DWU". [[Special:Contributions/81.108.82.15|81.108.82.15]]<sup>[[User talk:81.108.82.15#top|talk to me]]</sup> 00:14, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
::: The fact that this has the Doctor means it's set in some DWU. The DWU? Probably not. A DWU? Yes. A universe where the Doctor is a character of sorts. Yes. These events probably don't happen to the Fourth Doctor nor are they intended to. But they do happen to a Fourth Doctor that is a vision in a different world. A different continuity. A different DWU. People might see this a small and meaningless difference, but it isn't. Please let this thread be a catalyst that changes rule 4 to "a DWU". [[Special:Contributions/81.108.82.15|81.108.82.15]]<sup>[[User talk:81.108.82.15#top|talk to me]]</sup> 00:14, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
::::So let's just nip this in the bud before it spreads to other threads. "DWU" refers to the Doctor Who ''literary'' Universe. It does not refer to what the wiki terms [[N-Space]]. The reason why Daft Dimension, the Cushing Films, and Doctor Who? (etc etc) have heretofore been considered invalid (NOTDWU) is that they've at one point in time thought to be completely separate from this ''literary'' universe, not that Czech or Tangerine or Shambala or Amorkuz or someone came along and said they were in a different universe so we had to segregate them off. We don't do that with Unbound. We don't do that with the Infinity Doctors. This is a misunderstanding of how the wiki uses the term and it's a complete mistake to suggest that we should change R4 based on it.
::::In the same sense, it's '''''simply not the case''''' that having The Doctor as a character makes the work in question part of "a" Doctor Who Literary Universe. The most obvious example being the Simpsons occasionally using the character in ways that aren't obviously parodical ''for the character'' for jokes about time travelers or such. Or, you know, [[Cultural references to the Doctor Who universe]] for a ton of these. While you may, personally, consider all of these things to be actual factual appearances of The Doctor or what have you, (I know I consider some of them to be connected to Doctor Who in my own headcanon!) they do not constitute part of the Doctor Who Literary Universe. Let's kill this nonsense stone dead here and now. Our rules for validity are not the same as rules for some sort of maximally permissive Doctor Who Free-Association Universe. '''''They are attempting to define a specific scope for what we, as a wiki, can cover.''''' It's important to not confuse the two. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:43, 9 April 2023 (UTC)


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