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:::::Because those elements are limited to the non-''DW'' characters, you ''could'' argue that (for example) perhaps the [[Eleventh Doctor]] is meant to have brought them from the Land of Fiction or something, which would justify the gag while not otherwise infringing on the "solidness" of the DWU. Or you could simply track down a quote from whoever wrote/directed/produced this thing, confirming that it's meant to "happen-"''happen'' to "our" Doctor, even if it likely din't "happen"-''happen'' to the midwives as far as ''their'' show's "canon" is concerned. | :::::Because those elements are limited to the non-''DW'' characters, you ''could'' argue that (for example) perhaps the [[Eleventh Doctor]] is meant to have brought them from the Land of Fiction or something, which would justify the gag while not otherwise infringing on the "solidness" of the DWU. Or you could simply track down a quote from whoever wrote/directed/produced this thing, confirming that it's meant to "happen-"''happen'' to "our" Doctor, even if it likely din't "happen"-''happen'' to the midwives as far as ''their'' show's "canon" is concerned. | ||
::::This hasn't been really addressed in this thread. The link we have on the page for ''One Born Every Minute'' even refers to music playing when a character walks, which is itself evidence of this concern. I don't think the reason here this fails rule 4 is because it's a crossover but because of these weird meta issues. ''[[Looking for Pudsey (TV story)|Looking for Pudsey]]'' is less egregious, but has some of the same problems. (Off hand I can't find the entire sketch on US youtube, but what I can find shows a blurring of the lines between Newt Scamander as a character and Eddie Redmayne as an actor.) Now I'm not really against metafiction. And I'm a pretty staunch advocate of [[T:NO RW]] being applied evenly, so I'm perfectly fine with saying that all of these things are just how the characters are and we should accept that. But I think we should actually discuss these issues. I suspect they're more important than the mere notion of being a crossover. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:55, 19 April 2023 (UTC) | ::::This hasn't been really addressed in this thread. The link we have on the page for ''One Born Every Minute'' even refers to music playing when a character walks, which is itself evidence of this concern. I don't think the reason here this fails rule 4 is because it's a crossover but because of these weird meta issues. ''[[Looking for Pudsey (TV story)|Looking for Pudsey]]'' is less egregious, but has some of the same problems. (Off hand I can't find the entire sketch on US youtube, but what I can find shows a blurring of the lines between Newt Scamander as a character and Eddie Redmayne as an actor.) Now I'm not really against metafiction. And I'm a pretty staunch advocate of [[T:NO RW]] being applied evenly, so I'm perfectly fine with saying that all of these things are just how the characters are and we should accept that. But I think we should actually discuss these issues. I suspect they're more important than the mere notion of being a crossover. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:55, 19 April 2023 (UTC) | ||
::::: Just a heads Up that Redmayne is playing himself on set of his terf wizard film but Capaldi is the Doctor. [[Special:Contributions/81.106.187.1|81.106.187.1]]<sup>[[User talk:81.106.187.1#top|talk to me]]</sup> 15:13, 19 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
== ''Dermot and the Doctor'' == | == ''Dermot and the Doctor'' == |