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:::we must also consider Lolita who is not what one would call a Gallifreyan but she is still a Time Lord (if not by name then by the fact she is a prominent member of the Council of Houses) and in fact leads her own house. So the Question is does gaining the full rights of a member of the Great Houses make you a Time Lord? I would say yes.[[User:Anastasia Cousins|Anastasia Cousins]] [[User talk:Anastasia Cousins|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:25, 26 April 2023 (UTC) | :::we must also consider Lolita who is not what one would call a Gallifreyan but she is still a Time Lord (if not by name then by the fact she is a prominent member of the Council of Houses) and in fact leads her own house. So the Question is does gaining the full rights of a member of the Great Houses make you a Time Lord? I would say yes.[[User:Anastasia Cousins|Anastasia Cousins]] [[User talk:Anastasia Cousins|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:25, 26 April 2023 (UTC) | ||
::::Huh, didn't know we considered Leela one. Regardless, it comes down, imo, to what the terms mean in each source. "Time Lord" isn't a thing in FP, but the closest analogue would be "child of the Great Houses". The Cwejen might be petitioning for a political status, but that wouldn't necessarily grant them the same metaphysical status. (Or maybe it would. The work is a bit ambiguous here.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:35, 26 April 2023 (UTC) | ::::Huh, didn't know we considered Leela one. Regardless, it comes down, imo, to what the terms mean in each source. "Time Lord" isn't a thing in FP, but the closest analogue would be "child of the Great Houses". The Cwejen might be petitioning for a political status, but that wouldn't necessarily grant them the same metaphysical status. (Or maybe it would. The work is a bit ambiguous here.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:35, 26 April 2023 (UTC) | ||
:::::the fact it seems in Faction Paradox you have two kinds of “Time Lords” (for lack of a better less clinch term) Time Lords in the Metaphysical sense and Time Lords in the Political sense. I would argue that members of House Paradox are Time Lords in the Political sense. And anyway I would also like to say that Justine should be a Time Lord for another reason in that she posses the Shadow of the Grandfather and by Faction law (which latter becomes house law as of the Eleven Day Empire) is that the Shadow of the individual is more important that the body of the individual thus make Justine a political Time Lord (even if we ignore the restoration of Faction. paradox as House Paradox) and due to the Fact that the shadow defiantly does strange things to her Biodata we could argue that she is a Time Lord in the metaphysical sense as well as the Political. I would argue that Eliza, Morlock, Sabbath, quelch and any member of the Faction who existed between the restoration of the Faction as House Paradox and Lolita taking power as the War Queen and stripping the Faction of it Houses status are all “Time Lords” in the political sense. And Shuncucker due to having the Grandfather’s shadow is this also a time lord in the metaphysical sense. The War King does after all mention that Justine is under the Protection of House Protocol as she is an officially recognised member of House Paradox. Morlock (who worry I may start to be sounding like in this discussion) suggests that Justine will be able to find safety Homeworld because of the fact that the Faction now a House once more. (And should we consider the Hand of Fear in this debate) non Time Lords are not allowed onto the Homeworld. [[User:Anastasia Cousins|Anastasia Cousins]] [[User talk:Anastasia Cousins|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:55, 26 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
