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Now for the really subtle points raised by both OS25 and NateBumber, where we have both the full in-universe credentials and an unidentified cameo. If only we could write a general policy... Each case is different and usually there are at least some clues or connections that allow one to include such cameos into the main body of the article. I already used the example of [[Neil Armstrong]] in [[The Lie of the Land (TV story)|the same story]]. The amount of evidence needed strongly depends on the context. For instance, for the images present in this story: | Now for the really subtle points raised by both OS25 and NateBumber, where we have both the full in-universe credentials and an unidentified cameo. If only we could write a general policy... Each case is different and usually there are at least some clues or connections that allow one to include such cameos into the main body of the article. I already used the example of [[Neil Armstrong]] in [[The Lie of the Land (TV story)|the same story]]. The amount of evidence needed strongly depends on the context. For instance, for the images present in this story: | ||
* One was identified as [[Yuri Gagarin]]. I have perfect vision, but I cannot make out a face, not even a gender. It could as easily be the first woman in space (or any other cosmonaut, assuming that the make of the space-suit really pins it to Communist Russia, which I'm not sure about either). | * One was identified as [[Yuri Gagarin]]. I have perfect vision, but I cannot make out a face, not even a gender. It could as easily be the first woman in space (or any other cosmonaut, assuming that the make of the space-suit really pins it to Communist Russia, which I'm not sure about either). | ||
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I wrote the very first message (not quoted upthread) initially having this specific ''forged'' image of Gagarin in mind. Perhaps, my mistake was that I allowed the discussion of one forgery to get general. The need to describe the method that would apply to such falsified in-universe images led to the most conservative formulation. I myself would not formulate a general rule in a more permissive way. A real-world bleed, once introduced, is very hard to detect and remove without reading someone's mind. So for me presenting information in BTS is the least of two evils by default. But I am happy to consider each case separately. | I wrote the very first message (not quoted upthread) initially having this specific ''forged'' image of Gagarin in mind. Perhaps, my mistake was that I allowed the discussion of one forgery to get general. The need to describe the method that would apply to such falsified in-universe images led to the most conservative formulation. I myself would not formulate a general rule in a more permissive way. A real-world bleed, once introduced, is very hard to detect and remove without reading someone's mind. So for me presenting information in BTS is the least of two evils by default. But I am happy to consider each case separately. | ||
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