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::It's entirely natural that a fascist dictator in Britain would be opposed to the monarchy for the simple reason that the monarchy represents a threat to the dictator's power and authority. The monarchy in a constitutional democracy might have little direct power, but they nevertheless can mobilise popular support (often at times more effectively than the government, which actually does have the power, can). Besides, most would-be dictators want both the power ''and'' the popular recognition; outside of fiction, the "evil chancellor" secretly running things behind a puppet king is relatively rare. | ::It's entirely natural that a fascist dictator in Britain would be opposed to the monarchy for the simple reason that the monarchy represents a threat to the dictator's power and authority. The monarchy in a constitutional democracy might have little direct power, but they nevertheless can mobilise popular support (often at times more effectively than the government, which actually does have the power, can). Besides, most would-be dictators want both the power ''and'' the popular recognition; outside of fiction, the "evil chancellor" secretly running things behind a puppet king is relatively rare. | ||
:::I had assumed the monarchy had already been abolished and the Royal Family killed before the Party assumed power and that a lack of permanent, dependable institutions was what made fascism appealing; which is what happened in real-world Portugal. | |||
* In the Alternative Earth, Keith Gold is explicitly referred to as 'Sir Keith'. In a totalitarian republic, so ardently anti-royalist that they have actually eliminated the entire Royal Family, is it likely that Knighthoods would still exist or be acknowledged? Can you name any other regime where the monarchy has been liquidated and yet aristocratic titles and trappings be allowed to remain? | * In the Alternative Earth, Keith Gold is explicitly referred to as 'Sir Keith'. In a totalitarian republic, so ardently anti-royalist that they have actually eliminated the entire Royal Family, is it likely that Knighthoods would still exist or be acknowledged? Can you name any other regime where the monarchy has been liquidated and yet aristocratic titles and trappings be allowed to remain? | ||
::Many of them. It doesn't really seem to matter whether they execute the royals or not, or whether they're totalitarian republics or liberal ones; most republican revolutions don't eliminate the nobility. America and Russia are more exceptions than the rule. And look at the two other obvious precedents for | ::Many of them. It doesn't really seem to matter whether they execute the royals or not, or whether they're totalitarian republics or liberal ones; most republican revolutions don't eliminate the nobility. America and Russia are more exceptions than the rule. And look at the two other obvious precedents for Inferno England besides the USSR. Cromwell's England eliminated the House of Lords, but was ruled mostly by the gentry. In Nazi Germany, nobles retained their titles, and continued to make up a huge percentage of the military officership and civilian upper class, even if being noble hadn't conferred any rights or responsibilities beyond name use since the Weimar Constitution of 1919. | ||
::The French aristocracy were eventually allowed to regain and use their titles following the Bourbon Restoration, though with the establishing of the Third Republic they no longer have any legal status or privilege. | ::The French aristocracy were eventually allowed to regain and use their titles following the Bourbon Restoration, though with the establishing of the Third Republic they no longer have any legal status or privilege. | ||
:::Sir Keith is probably a baronet. In English Law baronets are commoners and have no special privileges, so its just a hereditary form of address. | |||
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