Talk:Transformer (robot): Difference between revisions

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::The point of the statement made is that [[Primo de la Vega]] has just been told by [[Gedarra]] something that gave him ''no information from his frame of reference'', not something that ''literally lacked semantic meaning''. Hence, referring to someone being in a random pop culture group that he knows vague things about at best. The idea that contradictions are okay because it's not supposed to make sense is confusing these two issues. It is '''''not''''' supposed to literally lack semantic meaning, it's not supposed to "not make sense" in that, well, sense.
::The point of the statement made is that [[Primo de la Vega]] has just been told by [[Gedarra]] something that gave him ''no information from his frame of reference'', not something that ''literally lacked semantic meaning''. Hence, referring to someone being in a random pop culture group that he knows vague things about at best. The idea that contradictions are okay because it's not supposed to make sense is confusing these two issues. It is '''''not''''' supposed to literally lack semantic meaning, it's not supposed to "not make sense" in that, well, sense.


::I'm not claiming they're not a species. I'm saying that if they're a species then there should be two pages, since the reference the original page contained was about an organization, not a species. If you want to discuss the stuff you've added on a species page, feel free to remove it and make a species page. Please, in no way feel wedded to keeping information that might not belong to a page I created about an organization "Transformers, robots in disguise" on that page. (Robot) is clearly incorrect, as it's conflating the group ''members'' with the ''group''. (Much like confusing [[Dalek]] with [[Dalek Empire]], or the cells that make up the heart with the heart itself.) It should either be "Transformers", "Transformers (group)", Transformers (organization)", "Transformers, robots in disguise", or a similar dab to the middle two.
::I'm not claiming they're not a species. I'm saying that if they're a species then there should be two pages, since the reference the original page contained was about an organization, not a species. If you want to discuss the stuff you've added on a species page, feel free to remove it and make a species page. Please, in no way feel wedded to keeping information that might not belong to a page I created about an organization "Transformers, robots in disguise" on that page. (Robot) is clearly incorrect, as it's conflating the group ''members'' with the ''group''. (Much like confusing [[Dalek]] with [[Dalek Empire]], or the cells that make up the heart with the heart itself.) It should either be "Transformers", "Transformers (group)", Transformers (organization)", "Transformers, robots in disguise", or a similar dab to the middle two. Politely, the entire dab issue is just a giant [https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/category-mistakes/ category error]. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:03, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
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