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But our system isn't like that. We ''consistently'' choose to prioritise on the in-universe/out-of-universe metric, giving no weight at all to most linked to /least linked to, or most searched for/least searched for.
But our system isn't like that. We ''consistently'' choose to prioritise on the in-universe/out-of-universe metric, giving no weight at all to most linked to /least linked to, or most searched for/least searched for.
=== A literal problem ===
=== A literal problem ===
If this were a ''Star Wars'' or DC Comics database, this stance would be unproblematic. We'd only have a few instances of ''literal titles'' — that is, titles that name something from the universe. But authors in the [[DWU]] are unusually literal with their titles. Depending on the range, the percentage of DWU stories named for a thing in the universe can be as high as 50%. Many DWU literal titles — like ''Logopolis'', ''Castrovalva'', ''The Ark'', ''The Ice Warriors'', ''Dalek'' and ''Paradise Towers'' — are named after ''places'' or ''species''.  
If this were a ''Star Wars'' or DC Comics database, this stance would be unproblematic. We'd only have a few instances of ''literal titles'' — that is, titles that name something from the universe. But authors in the [[DWU]] are unusually literal with their titles. Depending on the range, the percentage of DWU stories named for a thing in the universe can be as high as 50%. Many DWU literal titles — like ''Logopolis'', ''Castrovalva'', ''The Ark'', ''The Ice Warriors'', ''Dalek'' and ''Paradise Towers'' — are named after ''places'' or ''species''.  


Look at just this one run of five television stories:
Look at just this one run of five television stories:
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#'''''All''''' story titles get a dab term, as explained further at [[T:DAB TERM]].
#'''''All''''' story titles get a dab term, as explained further at [[T:DAB TERM]].
#In-universe terms '''never''' get a dab term, unless there's more than one in-universe thing with that same name. So, [[Castrovalva]] means the planet, [[The Pandorica Opens]] means the painting, [[Paradise Towers]] means the buildings and [[Miracle Day]] means the in-universe ''event''. But you will need to dab common names (like [[Susan]]), "re-used" species names (like [[Vogan (Revenge of the Cybermen)]] and [[Vogan (The Vogan Slaves)]]), titles (like [[Captain]]) and names that are used for completely different things, like [[Shada (prison)]] and [[Shada (book)]].  
#In-universe terms '''never''' get a dab term, unless there's more than one in-universe thing with that same name. So, [[Castrovalva]] means the planet, [[The Pandorica Opens]] means the painting, [[Paradise Towers]] means the buildings and [[Miracle Day]] means the in-universe ''event''. But you will need to dab common names (like [[Susan]]), "re-used" species names (like [[Vogan (Revenge of the Cybermen)]] and [[Vogan (The Vogan Slaves)]]), titles (like [[Captain]]) and names that are used for completely different things, like [[Shada (prison)]] and [[Shada (book)]].  
#If more than three things share a common name, the un-disambiguated term typically goes to a '''disambiguation page''' — a list of all things sharing that name. Hence [[Nurse]], [[Sergeant]], [[Susan]], [[Bill]], [[Amy]], [[Rose]], [[Martha]] and the like are disambiguation pages, not specific people.
#If more than three things share a common name, the un-disambiguated term is typically made a redirect to a '''disambiguation page''' using the dab term "(disambiguation)" — a list of all things sharing that name. Hence [[Nurse]], [[Sergeant]], [[Bill]], [[Amy]], [[Rose]], [[Martha]] and the like redirect to disambiguation pages, instead of being pages about specific people.


Those coming from Wikipedia will immediately see how our wiki is different. On Wikipedia, the thing that is most commonly associated with the name is un-disambiguated. Thus, '''according to Wikipedia rules''', [[The Pandorica Opens]] would be the episode, [[Martha]] would be a redirect for [[Martha Jones]], [[Rose]] would mean [[Rose Tyler]] and so on.  
Those coming from Wikipedia will immediately see how our wiki is different. On Wikipedia, the thing that is most commonly associated with the name is un-disambiguated. Thus, '''according to Wikipedia rules''', [[The Pandorica Opens]] would be the episode, [[Martha]] would be a redirect for [[Martha Jones]], [[Rose]] would mean [[Rose Tyler]] and so on.  
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* Making the links to the articles point to the correctly disambiguated title, so for example checking the 'what links here' for [[Charlie]] to make sure any links are pointing to the correctly disambiguated article name.
* Making the links to the articles point to the correctly disambiguated title, so for example checking the 'what links here' for [[Charlie]] to make sure any links are pointing to the correctly disambiguated article name.


* Ensuring that a reader who searches for a topic using a particular term can get to the information on that topic quickly and easily, whichever the possible topics might be. For example [[Charlie (disabmiguation)]] is a disambiguation page, a non-article page which lists the various uses of "Charlie" and links to the disambiguated articles.
* Ensuring that a reader who searches for a topic using a particular term can get to the information on that topic quickly and easily, whichever the possible topics might be. For example [[Charlie (disambiguation)]] is a disambiguation page, a non-article page which lists the various uses of "Charlie" and links to the disambiguated articles.


As discussed below however, some articles do not need to primarily be disambiguation pages, and the term itself/article itself may require being disambiguated away from the primary topic title.
As discussed below however, some articles do not need to primarily be disambiguation pages, and the term itself/article itself may require being disambiguated away from the primary topic title.
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* '''Story titles are always disambiguated, according to [[T:DAB TERM]].'''  
* '''Story titles are always disambiguated, according to [[T:DAB TERM]].'''  


* '''You need 3 similarly-named things to start a disambiguation page, particularly one that is itself un-disambiguated.''' A disambig page that is itself un-disambiguated simply invites people to link to it. For instance, if the page ''''City of the Daleks''' existed, then people would ''most likely'' link to it when they were trying to link to the modern [[City of the Daleks (video game)]], because many people are unaware of the 1960s [[City of the Daleks (comic story)]]. Deleting the page at '''City of Daleks''' is actually ''helpful'', because it forces users to pick one of the two valid links. We want disambiguation pages to help us create more correct links — not be lightning rods for bad ones. Un-disambiguated disambig pages tend to have long [[Special:WhatLinksHere|WhatLinksHere]] lists, so they really shouldn't be created '''before they are truly necessary'''. Thus, disambig pages consisting of just two items are actually considered, on balance, ''unhelpful''.
* '''You need 3 similarly-named things to start a disambiguation page.''' For instance, if the page ''''City of the Daleks''' existed, then people would ''most likely'' link to it when they were trying to link to the modern [[City of the Daleks (video game)]], because many people are unaware of the 1960s [[City of the Daleks (comic story)]]. Deleting the page at '''City of Daleks''' is actually ''helpful'', because it forces users to pick one of the two valid links. We want disambiguation pages to help us create more correct links — not be lightning rods for bad ones. Un-disambiguated disambig pages tend to have long [[Special:WhatLinksHere|WhatLinksHere]] lists, so they really shouldn't be created '''before they are truly necessary'''. Thus, disambig pages consisting of just two items are actually considered, on balance, ''unhelpful''.


* According to [[Forum:Peter Anghelides's future doctor naming|a forum discussion]], if a thing needs disambiguation, but it appears in more than one episode or story, the disambiguation term shall be the ''first'' story or episode in which the character appears. For instance, Nancy of ''[[The Empty Child]]'' / ''[[The Doctor Dances]]'' is disambiguated as [[Nancy (The Empty Child)]].
* According to [[Forum:Peter Anghelides's future doctor naming|a forum discussion]], if a thing needs disambiguation, but it appears in more than one episode or story, the disambiguation term shall be the ''first'' story or episode in which the character appears. For instance, Nancy of ''[[The Empty Child]]'' / ''[[The Doctor Dances]]'' is disambiguated as [[Nancy (The Empty Child)]].
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