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:: If that wider OP is going to take some time yet, I would appreciate your outlining what sort of rationale you're talking about here, or else avoid muddying the waters of what R4BP is about in the minds of casual readers of this thread, because again, short of a very, very clever loophole that's completely eluded me, I do ''not'' see how it could ''possibly'' have any bearing whatsoever on ''Fixing a Hole''. And I wrote it. (Which within ''some'' legal theories would be enough to say that R4BP "doesn't" as a matter of fact mean that, though I'm too much of a Barthesian in lit-crit to entirely put myself behind such a line of argument.) [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 20:01, 16 July 2023 (UTC) | :: If that wider OP is going to take some time yet, I would appreciate your outlining what sort of rationale you're talking about here, or else avoid muddying the waters of what R4BP is about in the minds of casual readers of this thread, because again, short of a very, very clever loophole that's completely eluded me, I do ''not'' see how it could ''possibly'' have any bearing whatsoever on ''Fixing a Hole''. And I wrote it. (Which within ''some'' legal theories would be enough to say that R4BP "doesn't" as a matter of fact mean that, though I'm too much of a Barthesian in lit-crit to entirely put myself behind such a line of argument.) [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 20:01, 16 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
::: I've thought about this topic myself, and my personal opinion has always been that as soon as Jimmy walks on set, that is the equivalent of cast members taking a bow at the end of the production. I would personally call it part of the OOU credits - not impacting the actual content before it. | |||
::: But moreover, I would also like to say that we as a wiki should have some process for when one story is released numerous times and only ''one version or another'' is valid. It should not be an acceptable standard that we have to have two pages on a story just to make sure everything is separated, it's silly. | |||
::: As per Najawin's supposed upcoming forum calling ''Fixing a Hole'' invalid, I'm going to guess this will be some retroactive reading of my old Thread about ''sequels to invalid sources not themselves being invalid and especially not in cases where the invalid stories in question fail something other than Rule 4'', wherein it was decided that one can not say "''Dimensions in Time'' (supposedly) fails Rule 2, thus a ''Dimensions in Time'' sequel must fail Rule 4." | |||
::: In the closing post, [[User:SOTO]] made a passing comment that "a story's relationship to another story does not matter to if that story is valid." Najawin has hinted in the past that he views this to be some massive loophole that unwinds the entire concept of Rule 4 By Proxy - which I think ignores the fundamental fact that SOTO is, currently, still active and in-fact acts as the site's main bureaucrat, calling upon this as evidence seems weird when they were fully active in January. But in ''this'' forum, Najawin seems to be implying that he believes in a rubber-band effect, as if Rule 4 by Proxy has unwound this ruling and thus implies the existence of Invalid by Proxy? If so I think this relevant to discuss since it seems to have an immediate bearing on if ''A Fix With Sontarans'' is valid or not, and I personally do not agree with this as a conclusion. | |||
::: I have said this before and I will say it again - the current site policy as envisioned by the editors and forum-users has more weight and precedence than any older rulings which are barely unarchived and heavily difficult to find in the first place. A forum from 2017 can not and should not be used to overrule a forum from something like six months ago. This is the very foundation of now only the New forums but also [[T:BOUND]]. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]][[User Talk:OttselSpy25|🤙☎️]] 20:14, 16 July 2023 (UTC) |