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This really takes the cake. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 11:28, 22 March 2023 (UTC) | This really takes the cake. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 11:28, 22 March 2023 (UTC) | ||
::To elaborate briefly | ::To elaborate briefly: in light of the [[:Category:The Doctor's regenerations|mature ecosystem]] of regeneration pages, I'm tempted to recreate [[Thirteenth Doctor's forced regeneration]] per [[T:WIKIFY]] alone. But I won't, because it goes deeper than that. To answer one closing statement with [[Talk:The Master/Archive 8#Towards a compromise|another]], | ||
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::: There is significant sentiment that the "Dhawan Doctor"'s history, appearance and significance should be discussed on their own page, separately from our coverage of the [[Spy Master]] and the [[Thirteenth Doctor]]. However, there is also significant sentiment that it would be wrong to characterise him as a ''person'' separate from the Spy Master, or as ''precisely'' "an incarnation of [[the Doctor]]". I am not here to litigate which sentiment is correct on the latter front: I don't think we all will ''ever'' reach a consensus on that without further evidence. We could be here all week arguing about whether the Doctor-Master is more like [[the DoctorDonna]] or more like the [[Tenth Doctor (Journey's End)|Metacrisis Doctor]] and we would, in all likelihood, still get nowhere. | ::: There is significant sentiment that the "Dhawan Doctor"'s history, appearance and significance should be discussed on their own page, separately from our coverage of the [[Spy Master]] and the [[Thirteenth Doctor]]. However, there is also significant sentiment that it would be wrong to characterise him as a ''person'' separate from the Spy Master, or as ''precisely'' "an incarnation of [[the Doctor]]". I am not here to litigate which sentiment is correct on the latter front: I don't think we all will ''ever'' reach a consensus on that without further evidence. We could be here all week arguing about whether the Doctor-Master is more like [[the DoctorDonna]] or more like the [[Tenth Doctor (Journey's End)|Metacrisis Doctor]] and we would, in all likelihood, still get nowhere. | ||
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::::The IP user's comment. It's brought up and gets no traction whatsoever. People just ignore it. Technically there are only two responses after, but it's explicitly brought up as an alternative+additional angle and wasn't brought up, like, weeks later. Discussion just petered out because ''nobody agreed with the suggestion and we already were okay with the compromise for the time being.'' [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:51, 22 November 2023 (UTC) | ::::The IP user's comment. It's brought up and gets no traction whatsoever. People just ignore it. Technically there are only two responses after, but it's explicitly brought up as an alternative+additional angle and wasn't brought up, like, weeks later. Discussion just petered out because ''nobody agreed with the suggestion and we already were okay with the compromise for the time being.'' [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:51, 22 November 2023 (UTC) | ||
::::: Najawin, you're reading your own opinions into the text of the conversation! With sample size of n=1, discussion on that page stopped because I didn't think the IP user had brought up anything new – Scrooge's proposal, which as you describe was ratified by community consensus, ''already'' explicitly recommended "something like […] pages about aliases like [[Harold Saxon]]"; further citation of [[Razor (World Enough and Time)|Razor]] and [[Emil Keller]] added nothing. (In this light I think your tallying of that IP user's vote should be reconsidered.) So it goes way too far to conclude that "nobody agreed with the suggestion" on this basis. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 18:06, 22 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
